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verismissimo
13-10-11, 09:34
Only asking...
mercia
13-10-11, 09:39
Cardillac on Radio 3 this afternoon
what's that like?
the synopsis seems to indicate Jack-the-ripper meets Ratners
Caliban
13-10-11, 09:46
Cardillac on Radio 3 this afternoon
what's that like?
the synopsis seems to indicate Jack-the-ripper meets Ratners

i.e. not just the prices are slashed?

Maybe it's the singers murdering the top notes?

Speaking personally, I like a number of operas (generally not the Italian or Russian kind, though Puccini is the exception) and love a few. But I find that I increasingly can't abide what seems to pass for (indeed be hailed as) "opera singing". Lots of people seem to have careers, to whom I can't listen for one moment. Also, opera directors with a 'concept' and opera audiences 'en masse' are things up with which I have difficulty putting.... :whistle:
Tapiola
13-10-11, 10:04
But I find that I increasingly can't abide what seems to pass for (indeed be hailed as) "opera singing". Lots of people seem to have careers, to whom I can't listen for one moment. Also, opera directors with a 'concept' ...

Couldn't agree more with all of this :ok: Many's a great opera spoilt by dreadful, uncentred squawking.

As for Cardillac, a blistering white-knuckle ride from start to finish. IMO one of the most significant operas of the 20th Century. Utterly wonderful. No details on the version being performed (it was revised in the early 1950s) though I assume it is the original (and better) version.

Full of gnarly, sour-toned doomladen counterpoint and angular melody. I love it!! :cool:
aka Calum Da Jazbo
13-10-11, 10:05
...it takes time away from Jazz, but not as much as Squealer .....
Tapiola
13-10-11, 10:19
...it takes time away from Jazz, but not as much as Squealer .....

There's a bit of jazz in Cardillac, Calum. In fact, it's the first opera to so incorporate.
ferneyhoughgeliebte
13-10-11, 10:23
Caliban:
" But I find that I increasingly can't abide what seems to pass for (indeed be hailed as) "opera singing". Lots of people seem to have careers, to whom I can't listen for one moment. " :ok: :ok: :ok:
"Also, opera directors with a 'concept' " :ok: :ok: (some "concepts" work.)

Tapiola:
"As for Cardillac, a blistering white-knuckle ride from start to finish. IMO one of the most significant operas of the 20th Century. Utterly wonderful. No details on the version being performed (it was revised in the early 1950s) though I assume it is the original (and better) version.

Full of gnarly, sour-toned doomladen counterpoint and angular melody. I love it!! :cool: " :ok: :ok: :ok:

... would a Gay "concept" of the work be a Pink Cardillac?

Sincere apologies and Best Wishes.
Tapiola
13-10-11, 10:31
"[I] ... would a Gay "concept" of the work be a Pink Cardillac?

:laugh:

Well, if the "action" occurred pre-1967, then protagonists might be liable to Cardillac Arrest... :erm:
ferneyhoughgeliebte
13-10-11, 10:37
Likewise: :laugh: !
mercia
13-10-11, 11:19
http://www.musicweb-international.com/SandH/2010/Jul-Dec10/cardillac1710.htm
aka Calum Da Jazbo
13-10-11, 11:22
There's a bit of jazz in Cardillac, Calum.
...always grateful for small mercies ...
mercia
13-10-11, 15:10
Cardillac Arrest

Katie just nicked your joke ......... but apologised
enjoying this broadcast ........ on and off .............
must be hell to learn (for the singers)
Tapiola
13-10-11, 16:23
Katie just nicked your joke ......... but apologised
enjoying this broadcast ........ on and off .............
must be hell to learn (for the singers)

Katie, how could you!

I only caught the Prologue and 1st Scene - must catch up on iPlayer.
Chris Newman
09-11-11, 22:08
On Monday, I went to my local Odeon cinema to watch/hear the ROH "Tosca with Angela Gheorghiu, Jonas Kaufmann, Bryn Terfel, Jeremy White and Hubert Francis conducted by Antonio Pappano. I can thoroughly recommend these regional screenings, several of which are live. Theer is usually one opera a month these days. Our Odeon now has now High Definition sound installed in all the cinemas and is trying hard to give viewers a good time. Full houses and the punters applaud. Great fun.