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Neutral Milk Hotel - In An Aeroplane Over The Sea. 1998
http://tinyurl.com/6qhez6r
http://i.imgur.com/VWsq8.jpg
verismissimo
21-05-12, 23:02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIH4k2hXyXY
Robin Gibb RIP. Sad, Barry Gibb has now lost three talented brothers.
Meet you there
Oysterband.
They are the voice of sanity.
(I take it folk /folk rock are welcome here!)
Meet you there
Oysterband.
They are the voice of sanity.
(I take it folk /folk rock are welcome here!)
:ok:
Plan B...defamation of Strickland Banks.
boy, am I out of touch with pop music.Seldom hear anything new !! Anyway, got given this, and its a fine listen. Deservedly popular. Could do with trimming a track or two.
also the soundtrack to "o brother where art thou"
Gotta love "Big Rock Candy Mountain" !!
Genesis, The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway. 1974, Charisma.
http://i.imgur.com/DWq9r.jpg (http://imgur.com/DWq9r)
EdgeleyRob
22-05-12, 20:16
Brilliant album The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway Beef.
Relayer (Yes) is my favourite prog rock album ever,would certainly be one of my desert island eight and probably my most played non classical cd.I need at least a weekly fix of it so will listen now.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61fIT3dkpSL._SS400_.jpg http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51h4n5Yhf4L._SS400_.jpg
Brilliant album The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway Beef.
Relayer (Yes) is my favourite prog rock album ever,would certainly be one of my desert island eight and probably my most played non classical cd.I need at least a weekly fix of it so will listen now.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61fIT3dkpSL._SS400_.jpg http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51h4n5Yhf4L._SS400_.jpg
Relayer's one of my all-time prog faves too. After a year, I started to play side two!!!
Sound Chaser is soo Morazzy Jazzy!!!
Atomic Rooster: Death Walks Behind You (1970)
Bax-of-Delights
23-05-12, 12:41
Of the YES oeuvre I'd go for CLOSE TO THE EDGE any time - genuinely symphonic in structure. But I'd also plump for these guys most days:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC6BS8WqtNs&feature=related
GENTLE GIANT
followed by
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEyKBr0KXT8&feature=related
JOHN McLAUGHLIN in his Mahavishnu Orchestra days.
Atomic Rooster: Death Walks Behind You (1970)
Awesome! :ok:
Of the YES oeuvre I'd go for CLOSE TO THE EDGE any time - genuinely symphonic in structure. But I'd also plump for these guys most days:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC6BS8WqtNs&feature=related
GENTLE GIANT
followed by
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEyKBr0KXT8&feature=related
JOHN McLAUGHLIN in his Mahavishnu Orchestra days.
CTTE :ok: :ok: :ok:
GG :ok: :ok:
The Inner Mounting Flame :ok: :ok: :ok:
Keef Hartley Band: Half Breed
Brian Eno, Music For Films. Label: EG. 1978.
http://i.imgur.com/xeXbP.jpg (http://imgur.com/xeXbP)
Crap cover, eh? :winkeye:
Frank Zappa Hot Rats. Reprise Records (at least that's what my original LP was on) 1969. I took this out on an almost permanent basis from my local library in 1973!
http://i.imgur.com/GjKNa.jpg (http://imgur.com/GjKNa)
Frank Zappa Hot Rats. Reprise Records (at least that's what my original LP was on) 1969. I bought this LP in 1973.
http://i.imgur.com/GjKNa.jpg (http://imgur.com/GjKNa)
I just really struggle with Zappa...yet Beefheart is great, especially Trout mask replica.
Odd. in at least 2 ways !
I just really struggle with Zappa...yet Beefheart is great, especially Trout mask replica.
Odd. in at least 2 ways !
Very odd! How anyone can struggle with this album is beyond me!!!
P.S. Isn't 'odd' a wonderful word!?
http://i.imgur.com/GjKNa.jpg (http://imgur.com/GjKNa)
so, you saying this is the one that will convert me, Beefy?
so, you saying this is the one that will convert me, Beefy?
Hard to say with Zappa - accessability-wise I'd say this or Apostrophe.
15 all :winkeye:
http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?350-What-are-you-listening-to-now&p=165460#post165460
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv8cJneLJkU
Frank Zappa Hot Rats. Reprise Records (at least that's what my original LP was on) 1969. I took this out on an almost permanent basis from my local library in 1973!
http://i.imgur.com/GjKNa.jpg (http://imgur.com/GjKNa)
I was reminded of contribution of mine to a similar rock thread last year:
http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?2615-Great-rock-and-pop-albums&p=70414#post70414
I never did re-buy it but might yet do so.
15 all :winkeye:
I will give it a go...especially as it is the tennis season !!(Zappa has the kind of reputation where you feel stupid and guilty for not liking him...so best to try again !)
Perhaps, like listening to Lou Reed, some "refreshment " helps things along !
I will give it a go...especially as it is the tennis season !!(Zappa has the kind of reputation where you feel stupid and guilty for not liking him...so best to try again !)
Perhaps, like listening to Lou Reed, some "refreshment " helps things along !
How kind of you to let me off the hook, given that I gave you no option with Nonsuch and Skylarking!!
BARCLAY JAMES HARVEST : Live Tapes
EdgeleyRob
23-05-12, 22:22
Zappa has the kind of reputation where you feel stupid and guilty for not liking him...
A bit like Sibelius.
I was reminded of contribution of mine to a similar rock thread last year:
http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?2615-Great-rock-and-pop-albums&p=70414#post70414
I never did re-buy it but might yet do so.
Bear in mind that you get a bonus with the CD version.
BARCLAY JAMES HARVEST : Live Tapes
In all honesty, I think I can claim never to have listened to a single BJH track. But an assistant director of music at school had played in a brass section on tour with them, and that, as you can imagine, made him very very cool.
Even if we were all into the Ramones at that particular time !(no room for a brass section with them !)
A bit like Sibelius.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Actually, not liking Sibelius is just really, really weird.
A bit like Sibelius.
but at least Zappa is in English, so no excuse there !!
BARCLAY JAMES HARVEST : Live Tapes
That is a blast from the past!!!
In all honesty, I think I can claim never to have listened to a single BJH track. But an assistant director of music at school had played in a brass section on tour with them, and that, as you can imagine, made him very very cool.
Even if we were all into the Ramones at that particular time !(no room for a brass section with them !)
Ramones :ok: :ok: :ok: Saw them in Colchester in 1979 or 80. :biggrin:
P.S. Can't believe they're nearly all dead!!
having a listen to Johnny Cash : American V A hundred highways.
Just wonderful.
(is this stuff now banned on the other "what are you listening to now thread"?)
Don't want any infractions..............!!
Ramones :ok: :ok: :ok: Saw them in Colchester in 1979 or 80. :biggrin:
P.S. Can't believe they're nearly all dead!!
Lucky man.
Like a total idiot, I missed my one chance to see the Ramones.....was in london at the time, and just SO much to see..thought i would get another chance.Huh !Learn the lesson !
Still love The first few albums.
EdgeleyRob
23-05-12, 22:34
Camel / The Snow Goose (never loses it's magic for me)
Camel / The Snow Goose (never loses it's magic for me)
Absolutely agree. In fact it has grown on me in the last few years - I think I like it more now than I did back in the day.
having a listen to Johnny Cash : American V A hundred highways.
Just wonderful.
(is this stuff now banned on the other "what are you listening to now thread"?)
Don't want any infractions..............!!
Certainly not banned.
I started this thread so as not to clutter the other one with stuff that most of the guys on the other thread may not be that interested in.
I am posting classical on there, rock etc on here.
In all honesty, I think I can claim never to have listened to a single BJH track. But an assistant director of music at school had played in a brass section on tour with them, and that, as you can imagine, made him very very cool.
Even if we were all into the Ramones at that particular time !(no room for a brass section with them !)
Ah The Ramones , good idea , reaches for 'Rocket to Russia' and a very loud blast of 'Rockaway Beach' .... sheer high octane brilliance.
Ah The Ramones , good idea , reaches for 'Rocket to Russia' and a very loud blast of 'Rockaway Beach' .... sheer high octane brilliance.
:ok: :ok: :ok: I WANNA GO BACK IN TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is a blast from the past!!!
BJH - certainly not the best band ever, but left some great tunes and their gigs were always good.
BJH - certainly not the best band ever, but left some great tunes and their gigs were always good.
Never saw them, came to them a bit late '75/'76. Always used to look longingly at the cover of 'short stories' in the record shop. Trouble is, there was never enough money left over from the Zep, Purple, Sabbath, Yes, Crimson, Gong etc essential purchases, for BJH to get a look-in!
Weather Report '8:30' 1979, Colombia. A mainly Live album. Jaco notwithstanding, special mention has to go to Peter Erskine for some of the most remarkable drumming ever! Just check the link to him swinging on the live 'Brirdland'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqashW66D7o
http://i.imgur.com/7VpIK.jpg (http://imgur.com/7VpIK)
BJH - certainly not the best band ever, but left some great tunes and their gigs were always good.
I always feel when I hear BJH they are very competent musicians but not very original, their stuff is self-penned but most of the ideas nicked.
Ah The Ramones , good idea , reaches for 'Rocket to Russia' and a very loud blast of 'Rockaway Beach' .... sheer high octane brilliance.
there are quite a few terrific Ramones songs.Sheena, Blitzkrieg etc, but Rockaway Beach would always be my"desert island" choice for them.
love the cover of the album too.
Emmylou 'Harris Roses in the Snow'. Warner Bros. 1980.
http://i.imgur.com/rodPk.png (http://imgur.com/rodPk)
Emmylou 'Harris Roses in the Snow'. Warner Bros. 1980.
http://i.imgur.com/rodPk.png (http://imgur.com/rodPk)
Beef
Emmylou is one of those understated talents. Have you heard the Trio albums she did with Dolly Parton and Linda Ronstadt?
By the way how do you add in the CD cover pictures?
MrGongGong
24-05-12, 09:29
http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?350-What-are-you-listening-to-now&p=165460#post165460
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv8cJneLJkU
Which is easily the best thing he has done IMV :ok:
songs about junkies are ok for a bit .......... but
Beef
Emmylou is one of those understated talents. Have you heard the Trio albums she did with Dolly Parton and Linda Ronstadt?
By the way how do you add in the CD cover pictures?
I have heard 'Trio', but I down't own a copy, it being on my long-list of purchases. I have about 7/8 EH albums - love 'em all.
Inserting images is easy - caliban explains clearly here http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?3845-Inserting-images-into-posts
Agreed, she is not praised as often or highly as she should be.
Roy Harper 'Work of Heart'. Awareness Records 1982.
http://i.imgur.com/t62D3.jpg (http://imgur.com/t62D3)
Had a stroll through Zappa's greatest hits today ( a well meant pressie from one of the little Teamsaints).
I think i need to give Hot Rats a fair go..to do it properly....
also today....
The Beat..part of the big comprehesive Greatest Hits. A fine band indeed, and Ranking Roger is a decent singer live.
question: I seem to recall that when the beat's first album came out, it was touted as the first digitally recorded album. Perhaps the first major album. Anyone recall if this is true..or is the memory fading...........
Echo & The Bunnymen, Porcupine. Label: Korova, 1983.
http://i.imgur.com/CkHMT.jpg (http://imgur.com/CkHMT)
funny band the bunnymen. Genius at best, ploddy at worst.
But always worth a spin, and a string of great singles. Killing moon must be in my top 50 singles. Does it every time.
EDIT Fashion Note. Always grateful to the Bunnymen...it was the one time in my life i was up with the fashion...managed to pick up one of those long black coats in a charity shop very early in the Bunnymen heyday. I looked pretty :cool: as you can imagine !! (well I thought so , and that is half the battle !!)
Beefy, you ever stumble across "The Sound" or Adrian Borland ?
funny band the bunnymen. Genius at best, ploddy at worst.
But always worth a spin, and a string of great singles. Killing moon must be in my top 50 singles. Does it every time.
EDIT Fashion Note. Always grateful to the Bunnymen...it was the one time in my life i was up with the fashion...managed to pick up one of those long black coats in a charity shop very early in the Bunnymen heyday. I looked pretty :cool: as you can imagine !! (well I thought so , and that is half the battle !!)
Beefy, you ever stumble across "The Sound" or Adrian Borland ?
I remember the Sound and Adrian Borland, but I never knowingly heard a note of their music. One of the many bands I missed. Back in the day there were so many bands, too many!
E&Bunnymen were one of my faves. Saw them live in 1980 - they were super!
Had a stroll through Zappa's greatest hits today ( a well meant pressie from one of the little Teamsaints).
I think i need to give Hot Rats a fair go..to do it properly....
also today....
The Beat..part of the big comprehesive Greatest Hits. A fine band indeed, and Ranking Roger is a decent singer live.
question: I seem to recall that when the beat's first album came out, it was touted as the first digitally recorded album. Perhaps the first major album. Anyone recall if this is true..or is the memory fading...........
Regarding The Beat, I have no idea - my memory on these things faded to grey years ago!
I remember the Sound and Adrian Borland, but I never knowingly heard a note of their music. One of the many bands I missed. Back in the day there were so many bands, too many!
E&Bunnymen were one of my faves. Saw them live in 1980 - they were super!
saw the bunnymen in 1980..i think I caught them on an off night. Perhaps I had an off night...I do recall I missed seeing The Sound to catch the bunnymen.
I would recommend investigating The Sound. they were sheer Dynamite live, passion to burn.
And such a great band. My copy of "Jeopardy" would, I think, be the first record I would save in a crisis.
Adrian was a wonderful songwriter, full of things to say,and I loved his guitar playing.
It is part of my mission in life to get the message across......
(you are right about the wealth of bands at that time..could catch a great band every night in London).
:biggrin:
saw the bunnymen in 1980..i think I caught them on an off night. Perhaps I had an off night...I do recall I missed seeing The Sound to catch the bunnymen.
I would recommend investigating The Sound. they were sheer Dynamite live, passion to burn.
And such a great band. My copy of "Jeopardy" would, I think, be the first record I would save in a crisis.
Adrian was a wonderful songwriter, full of things to say,and I loved his guitar playing.
It is part of my mission in life to get the message across......
(you are right about the wealth of bands at that time..could catch a great band every night in London).
At the peak, you could catch 4 or 5 bands a night in London.
I will check 'The Sound' on youtube. Goes on my to-listen to list!
I seem to recall that when the beat's first album came out, it was touted as the first digitally recorded album. Perhaps the first major album. Anyone recall if this is true..or is the memory fading...........
I thought it was Ry Cooder's 'Bop Till you Drop'?
I thought it was Ry Cooder's 'Bop Till you Drop'?
quite probably . Just a vague memory of a news item from 30 years ago !
Le Orme 'Felona e Sorona'. Philips Records 1973.
A great example of 'Rock Progressivo Italiano'
http://i.imgur.com/aEyUn.jpg (http://imgur.com/aEyUn)
EdgeleyRob
24-05-12, 22:59
Gentle Giant / In A Glasshouse (I would imagine this is your kind of thing too Beef).
Gentle Giant / In A Glasshouse (I would imagine this is your kind of thing too Beef).
:ok: One of GG's best.
RUPERT HINE ' Waving not Drowning '
RUPERT HINE ' Waving not Drowning '
:ok: and phil collins guesting on drums
Darwin! by Italian prog giants 'Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso'. Label Ricordi, 1972.
Featuring the amazing 'operatic' voice of Francesco Di Giacomo.
http://i.imgur.com/BjAqb.jpg (http://imgur.com/BjAqb)
MrGongGong
24-05-12, 23:31
Do you listen to the whole album Beef ?
Le Orme 'Felona e Sorona'. Philips Records 1973. @ 22:51
Darwin! by Italian prog giants 'Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso'. Label Ricordi, 1972. @ 23:22
I think you are playing these at the wrong speed ?
in tribute to Robin Gibb ?
Do you listen to the whole album Beef ?
Le Orme 'Felona e Sorona'. Philips Records 1973. @ 22:51
Darwin! by Italian prog giants 'Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso'. Label Ricordi, 1972. @ 23:22
I think you are playing these at the wrong speed ?
in tribute to Robin Gibb ?
Felona e Sorona is 33.5 minutes long and the Banco album is still playing. What are you suggesting GG?
P.S. I already had the Le Orme on the turntable a few minutes while I was posting.
:ok: and phil collins guesting on drums
:ok: PC guests on marimba , timbales and tom-toms on the track ' Innocents in Paradise ' says he reading the album cover !!
MrGongGong
24-05-12, 23:52
Felona e Sorona is 33.5 minutes long and the Banco album is still playing. What are you suggesting GG?
P.S. I already had the Le Orme on the turntable a few minutes while I was posting.
Suggesting nothing
give the Balfa a spin
go on
it's like acoustic Alva Noto
:biggrin:
Suggesting nothing
give the Balfa a spin
go on
it's like acoustic Alva Noto
:biggrin:
I hate bats.
MrGongGong
25-05-12, 00:06
I hate bats.
you might like this though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WVJxvMp4Mc&feature=related
I know
I know
Berio is spinning in his grave ?
you might like this though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WVJxvMp4Mc&feature=related
I know
I know
Berio is spinning in his grave ?
I enjoyed that. I like Berio. I can only handle Einaudi sometimes.
Brian Eno, Another Green World. Island 1975.
One of my all time favourite albums. I play it alot after all these years.
http://i.imgur.com/9wm0q.jpg (http://imgur.com/9wm0q)
The Sound. Shock of Daylight.
:ok: PC guests on marimba , timbales and tom-toms on the track ' Innocents in Paradise ' says he reading the album cover !!
Phil Collins - good guy, bad guy, love him or hate him? Face Value was , the Beatles cover apart, an excellent album and a lot of his personal situation at the time went into that album, his subsequent albums were never as inventive and didn't move on - I rarely listen to much else by PC but frequently have a listen to Face Value - back in the early 80s it was on the side of a C90 in the car (the other side another favourite of the time, Stevie Nicks' Bella Donna - she never made a better album).
Phil Collins - good guy, bad guy, love him or hate him? Face Value was , the Beatles cover apart, an excellent album and a lot of his personal situation at the time went into that album, his subsequent albums were never as inventive and didn't move on - I rarely listen to much else by PC but frequently have a listen to Face Value - back in the early 80s it was on the side of a C90 in the car (the other side another favourite of the time, Stevie Nicks' Bella Donna - she never made a better album).
PC's vocal career is something that almost totally passed me by. I only see him as a drummer, and boy, what a drummer! One of the best for sure.
Caravan, For Girls Who Grow Plump In The Night. Dream Records, 1973.
http://i.imgur.com/FsIPy.jpg
Serial_Apologist
25-05-12, 23:18
Caravan, For Girls Who Grow Plump In The Night. Dream Records, 1973.
http://i.imgur.com/FsIPy.jpg
Yes indeed. The last track - an orchestration of Softs' "Backwards" being particularly effective, even though the recorded quality of the orchestral sound leaves a certain amount to be desired.
Anyone watch the Pink Floyd docu tonight?
Caravan, For Girls Who Grow Plump In The Night. Dream Records, 1973.
http://i.imgur.com/FsIPy.jpg
I'm more familiar with 'In the Land of grey and Pink' which is arguably Caravan's best!
I've programmed to record PF.
I'm more familiar with 'In the Land of grey and Pink' which is arguably Caravan's best!
:ok: Yes, it is a better album.
pet sounds.
for all their class, there is something about the Beach Boys that I find hard to connect with. Some great tunes, nevertheless.
Phil Collins - good guy, bad guy, love him or hate him? Face Value was , the Beatles cover apart, an excellent album and a lot of his personal situation at the time went into that album, his subsequent albums were never as inventive and didn't move on - I rarely listen to much else by PC but frequently have a listen to Face Value - back in the early 80s it was on the side of a C90 in the car (the other side another favourite of the time, Stevie Nicks' Bella Donna - she never made a better album).
I agree with you Cloughie that Face Value was definitely PC's best solo album by a distance, thereafter his output was decidedly mixed and a bit formulaic. Funny how now people I know who loved him when he was immensely popular now often seem to deny it completely ! How fortunes change. What he did do was a lot of excellent production / guest contribution work on other peoples albums - too many to mention but eg the drumming on a couple of tracks on Peter Gabriel 3 , one is called ' Intruder ' - now that is drumming !
PC's vocal career is something that almost totally passed me by. I only see him as a drummer, and boy, what a drummer! One of the best for sure.
PC's drumming at Genesis gigs ( when he wasn't singing ) was always something to enjoy - especially the duets with Chester Thompson ( I once saw him with Weather Report ) who was equally good, if not better.
PC's drumming at Genesis gigs ( when he wasn't singing ) was always something to enjoy - especially the duets with Chester Thompson ( I once saw him with Weather Report ) who was equally good, if not better.
Agreed - Chester Thompson is amazing. I love his performance on Squonk on Seconds Out......but then what about Brufford on Cinema Show!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
Joy Division 'Closer' the album of my second year at university.
http://i.imgur.com/SXaJi.jpg (http://imgur.com/SXaJi)
pet sounds.
for all their class, there is something about the Beach Boys that I find hard to connect with. Some great tunes, nevertheless.
Pet Sounds was undoubtedly one of the best pop/rock albums of the 60s, or indeed all time, and was the summit of Brian Wilson's career from which he fell off and never climbed back. There were snatches of his genius later but really no match for PS. He has, in comparison with the Beatles, been described as Lennon, McCartney and George Martin rolled into one - that was maybe the problem - it was unsustainable and he imploded. But how I would love to be part of an 'A Cappella Beach Boys' tribute group.
aka Calum Da Jazbo
26-05-12, 11:18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=d6DGwdlPg14
cd review hitting all my pain spots today
Serial_Apologist
26-05-12, 11:58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=d6DGwdlPg14
cd review hitting all my pain spots today
Wrong thread Calum!!! :yikes: :laugh: :winkeye: :cool: :ale:
(Couldn't this entire discussion have been posted under the Jazz thread??)
I agree with you Cloughie that Face Value was definitely PC's best solo album by a distance, thereafter his output was decidedly mixed and a bit formulaic. Funny how now people I know who loved him when he was immensely popular now often seem to deny it completely ! How fortunes change. What he did do was a lot of excellent production / guest contribution work on other peoples albums - too many to mention but eg the drumming on a couple of tracks on Peter Gabriel 3 , one is called ' Intruder ' - now that is drumming !
Not sure about your 'denialist' contention. People who loved him 'at the time' still do, it seems.
I never saw the point of his solo/vocal stuff.
I never quite got my head around him being a singer, but to be fair, I don't think I've heard anything other than the singles - I was too busy playing my Brand X LPs!!
It seems that I should have a listen to Face Value.
Teamsaint/cloughie
I have only ever played Petsounds through once and didn't feel compelled to take a second listen!!
By all accounts, I'm missing out :sadface:
Roxy Music - Roxy Music. Island Records, 1972.
http://i.imgur.com/RIgEJ.jpg (http://imgur.com/RIgEJ)
Teamsaint/cloughie
I have only ever played Petsounds through once and didn't feel compelled to take a second listen!!
By all accounts, I'm missing out :sadface:
well that was my point really.
I know that pet Sounds gets in all those "50 top albums " things. And I do like it , and i really enjoy the odd bit of Beach boys.........but I just feel its stuff I can live without. Gave it a really good listen..and I understand some of the context...but to me its just a good album.lots of other disagree. Thats fine !!
Incidentally, and its probably not wise to say this, I feel the same about "Whats going on".....
Joy Division 'Closer' the album of my second year at university.
http://i.imgur.com/SXaJi.jpg (http://imgur.com/SXaJi)
but this ISN'T over rated.
Passion this intense is a rare commodity indeed.
Their early music has really stood the test of time.
PC's drumming at Genesis gigs ( when he wasn't singing ) was always something to enjoy - especially the duets with Chester Thompson ( I once saw him with Weather Report ) who was equally good, if not better.
and if I am not very much mistaken, he did a great drumming job on Adam Ant's "Puss in Boots " !!
he certainly produced, and the drumming is class.
Teamsaint/cloughie
I have only ever played Petsounds through once and didn't feel compelled to take a second listen!!
By all accounts, I'm missing out :sadface:
I remember Pet Sounds being released and being one of those LPs (only Americans called them albums then) and for a while it was never off my turntable, and vied with Revolver for needle-time! Here Today was one of my favoured tracks!
Roxy Music - Roxy Music. Island Records, 1972.
Great musicians but spoiled by Bryan Ferry's voice. He was later guilty of murdering Dylan and his 'As Time Goes By' had super arrangements but what a dreary voice!
MrGongGong
26-05-12, 16:16
Great musicians but spoiled by Bryan Ferry's voice. He was later guilty of murdering Dylan
Much as I have no time for the Bobster
I would draw the line at homicide :whistle:
Agreed - Chester Thompson is amazing. I love his performance on Squonk on Seconds Out......
I remember seeing them at Earls Court on that tour. :biggrin:
I remember seeing them at Earls Court on that tour. :biggrin:
I remember deciding not to go!!!!!! :steam: :laugh:
.......Incidentally, and its probably not wise to say this, I feel the same about "Whats going on".....
:laugh: Me too!!!
Great musicians but spoiled by Bryan Ferry's voice. He was later guilty of murdering Dylan and his 'As Time Goes By' had super arrangements but what a dreary voice!
Ferry's performance on the first two Roxy albums is too amazingly good to be able to be put into words.
His performance on the next two and the Live album are almost as good as the former.
Apart from Desire, I'm happy living without playing as much as note of Dylan's performances.
I think everybody does great covers of Dylan's stuff, including Ferry.
You're opening a can of worms with drawing conclusions about covers!! :winkeye: :biggrin:
Camel - Snow Goose. Decca, 1975.
http://i.imgur.com/uuU3N.jpg (http://imgur.com/uuU3N)
Are people on this thread not aware of some of the finest jazz/rock/prog fusion ever to hail from these shores, back in the late '70s? Highly intelligent music making, free from the pomposity of, say, Pink Floyd or ELP.
Constantly-shifting time signatures, virtuoso playing and a harmonic/rhythmic palette that left other bands of the day sounding like they need to undertake a foundation course in the mechanics of music...
http://billbruford.com/shop/images/One%20of%20a%20Kind.jpg http://billbruford.com/shop/images/Feels%20good%20to%20me.jpg
http://billbruford.com/shop/images/Gradually%20Going%20Tornado.jpg
A large part of the success of these albums was the highly attuned playing of keyboardist Dave Stewart, (I'd also recommend the Hatfield and the North / National Health albums he was on) and stellar guitar playing of Bradford-born Allan Holdsworth.
Ferry's performance on the first two Roxy albums is too amazingly good to be able to be put into words.
His performance on the next two and the Live album are almost as good as the former.
Apart from Desire, I'm happy living without playing as much as note of Dylan's performances.
I think everybody does great covers of Dylan's stuff, including Ferry.
You're opening a can of worms with drawing conclusions about covers!! :winkeye: :biggrin:
I get the impression you quite like Mr Ferry then.
Your sweeping statement on Dylan does you no favours - some Dylan covers suck!
The covers topic, generally, is indeed the most fascinating can of worms!
Are people on this thread not aware of some of the finest jazz/rock/prog fusion ever to hail from these shores, back in the late '70s? Highly intelligent music making, free from the pomposity of, say, Pink Floyd or ELP.
Constantly-shifting time signatures, virtuoso playing and a harmonic/rhythmic palette that left other bands of the day sounding like they need to undertake a foundation course in the mechanics of music...
http://billbruford.com/shop/images/One%20of%20a%20Kind.jpg http://billbruford.com/shop/images/Feels%20good%20to%20me.jpg
http://billbruford.com/shop/images/Gradually%20Going%20Tornado.jpg
A large part of the success of these albums was the highly attuned playing of keyboardist Dave Stewart, (I'd also recommend the Hatfield and the North / National Health albums he was on) and stellar guitar playing of Bradford-born Allan Holdsworth.
:ok: :ok: :ok: Proud owner of all three albums! Bought them as they came out. Don't forget the live album 'The Bruford Tapes'
I have quite a few H&TN recordings, but have not replaced my National Health album from vinyl to CD :sadface: Seen Bruford and Holdsworth live a few times down the years.
I get the impression you quite like Mr Ferry then.
Your sweeping statement on Dylan does you no favours - some Dylan covers suck!
The covers topic, generally, is indeed the most fascinating can of worms!
I am not that interested in Ferry, I love Roxy(first 5 releases), always have. Didn't buy anything after 'Viva!'
My 'sweeping statemernt' came across wrong! What I meant was, I prefer ANYBODY'S cover of BD to the real BD!!!!
I am not that interested in Ferry, I love Roxy(first 5 releases), always have. Didn't buy anything after 'Viva!'
My 'sweeping statemernt' came across wrong! What I meant was, I prefer ANYBODY'S cover of BD to the real BD!!!!
Don't know if you've heard Ferry's Dylanesque album but to my ears it is quite nasty!
..and if you want another bad example of Dylan covery try Mick Hucknall.
Don't know if you've heard Ferry's Dylanesque album but to my ears it is quite nasty!
Never even heard of it!!!!!!
I'll take your word that it's nasty, and need never trouble myself with it :biggrin:
Don't know if you've heard Ferry's Dylanesque album but to my ears it is quite nasty!
..and if you want another bad example of Dylan covery try Mick Hucknall.
+vely 4th St? I like it (once the drums come in!!!!!!) Better than old Zimmerframe's version. :biggrin:
+vely 4th St? I like it (once the drums come in!!!!!!) Better than old Zimmerframe's version. :biggrin:
You got to be joking - the original was a gem from the Highway 61/Blonde on Blonde era!
You got to be joking - the original was a gem from the Highway 61/Blonde on Blonde era!
Sadly, I must be a Dyltard! My faves are, Dear Landlord - Janice Joplin; Only a Hobo & Mama You Been on My Mind - Rod Stewart; AATW - Hendrix & the best of them all, I'll Keep It With Mine - Nico.
Not Zimmo's biggest fan...but he is a great songwriter, and if his singing doesn't grab you, he has provided wonderful material for others.
personally, I forgive him most things when he does things like this
http://www.wat.tv/video/bob-dylan-blind-willie-mctell-1q85w_2gh7d_.html
And going back to to the whole prog rock thing, it all puts me in mind of the days when i was an annoying 5th former prepared to give a fair listen to anything loud and under 3 minutes long, and hearing the conversations of 6th formers who thought that anything more than 2 tracks on a double album, and that didn't fuse at least 3 genres was musically unacceptable.
Happy days !
I don't think I will ever get prog rock....but then I thought that about Bruckner, and he is about to see me through the olympics with my sanity intact, hopefully.
Not Zimmo's biggest fan...but he is a great songwriter, and if his singing doesn't grab you, he has provided wonderful material for others.
personally, I forgive him most things when he does things like this
http://www.wat.tv/video/bob-dylan-blind-willie-mctell-1q85w_2gh7d_.html
Well, I suppose if more of his stuff was like this..................
A song about the bloke who did 'The Streets Of London' ?
MrGongGong
26-05-12, 21:54
Not Zimmo's biggest fan...but he is a great songwriter, and if his singing doesn't grab you, he has provided wonderful material for others.
personally, I forgive him most things when he does things like this
http://www.wat.tv/video/bob-dylan-blind-willie-mctell-1q85w_2gh7d_.html
hummmmm
I'm never convinced i'm afraid
I always think he is a poet who happens to write songs rather than a singer who happens to write poetry
If you get rid of the words then there's nothing much
unlike Tom Waits IMV
hummmmm
I'm never convinced i'm afraid
I always think he is a poet who happens to write songs rather than a singer who happens to write poetry
If you get rid of the words then there's nothing much
unlike Tom Waits IMV
Tom Waits is a very good comparison. It shows that there's a lot of hype with Dylan.
Sadly, I must be a Dyltard! My faves are, Dear Landlord - Janice Joplin; Only a Hobo & Mama You Been on My Mind - Rod Stewart; AATW - Hendrix & the best of them all, I'll Keep It With Mine - Nico.
Don't get me wrong there have been some very good Dylan interpretations, not least by the Byrds, Manfred Mann, Judy Collins, Joan Baez, Richie Havens, Joe Cocker, Julie Driscoll, Fairport Convention, The Band, Eric Claton and Jimi Hendrix, but there are certain of his songs that no other interpretation has surpassed.
Don't get me wrong there have been some very good Dylan interpretations, not least by the Byrds, Manfred Mann, Judy Collins, Joan Baez, Richie Havens, Joe Cocker, Julie Driscoll, Fairport Convention, The Band, Eric Claton and Jimi Hendrix, but there are certain of his songs that no other interpretation has surpassed.
Fair point.
Weather Report - I Sing The Body Electric. Clombia, 1972.
http://i.imgur.com/9zuwr.jpg (http://imgur.com/9zuwr)
hummmmm
I'm never convinced i'm afraid
I always think he is a poet who happens to write songs rather than a singer who happens to write poetry
If you get rid of the words then there's nothing much
unlike Tom Waits IMV
oh dear, that opens up a tricky area.
I always think that the real trick with lyrics is , to put it simply(because I don't really know how to express what I think), tomake them work really well with the music, in terms of flow, and what feels right. I reckon Zimmo does this pretty well, though, as i say, not his biggest fan.
Others who do this well might be Paul Simmonds from The Men They Couldn't hang.....Elvis Costello....and many of those we think of as great songwiters. that ability to make music and lyric work seamlessly is a large part of the art of songwriting.
As a contrast.. Paul Weller makes it work at his best,(Down in the Tube Station) but is sometimes guilty of not making it work and thus falling below his best standards (Just Who is the five O'clock hero).
So that came out as jumbled nonsense,but I know what I mean, even if nobody else does !!
EDIT...just looked up a " Top 50 Dylan Covers" article, delighted to see Jason and The Scorchers in there with "Absolutely sweet Marie". A country rock genius if there was ever one !!
Tom Waits is a very good comparison. It shows that there's a lot of hype with Dylan.
Can't really comment as I've not heard much Tom Waits! Dylan is more of a wordsmith than a tunesmith and jangly guitars and keyboards have added value to his music! The Band were good for him as Tom Petty Ian McLagen and others were for him later.
MrGongGong
26-05-12, 22:14
oh dear, that opens up a tricky area.
I always think that the real trick with lyrics is , to put it simply(because I don't really know how to express what I think), tomake them work really well with the music, in terms of flow, and what feels right. I reckon Zimmo does this pretty well, though, as i say, not his biggest fan.
Others who do this well might be Paul Simmonds from The Men They Couldn't hang.....Elvis Costello....and many of those we think of as great songwiters. that ability to make music and lyric work seamlessly is a large part of the art of songwriting.
As a contrast.. Paul Weller makes it work at his best,(Down in the Tube Station) but is sometimes guilty of not making it work and thus falling below his best standards (Just Who is the five O'clock hero).
So that came out as jumbled nonsense,but I know what I mean, even if nobody else does !!
Dylan does write poetry
but the music is pants (IMV of course)
on the other hand
Tom Waits writes good stories and the music is intriguing
oh dear, that opens up a tricky area.
I always think that the real trick with lyrics is , to put it simply(because I don't really know how to express what I think), tomake them work really well with the music, in terms of flow, and what feels right. I reckon Zimmo does this pretty well, though, as i say, not his biggest fan.
Others who do this well might be Paul Simmonds from The Men They Couldn't hang.....Elvis Costello....and many of those we think of as great songwiters. that ability to make music and lyric work seamlessly is a large part of the art of songwriting.
As a contrast.. Paul Weller makes it work at his best,(Down in the Tube Station) but is sometimes guilty of not making it work and thus falling below his best standards (Just Who is the five O'clock hero).
So that came out as jumbled nonsense,but I know what I mean, even if nobody else does !!
Well that leaves Steven-20 words a line-Morrisey looking for a different career. :laugh:
oh dear, that opens up a tricky area.
I always think that the real trick with lyrics is , to put it simply(because I don't really know how to express what I think), tomake them work really well with the music, in terms of flow, and what feels right. I reckon Zimmo does this pretty well, though, as i say, not his biggest fan.
Others who do this well might be Paul Simmonds from The Men They Couldn't hang.....Elvis Costello....and many of those we think of as great songwiters. that ability to make music and lyric work seamlessly is a large part of the art of songwriting.
As a contrast.. Paul Weller makes it work at his best,(Down in the Tube Station) but is sometimes guilty of not making it work and thus falling below his best standards (Just Who is the five O'clock hero).
So that came out as jumbled nonsense,but I know what I mean, even if nobody else does !!
EDIT...just looked up a " Top 50 Dylan Covers" article, delighted to see Jason and The Scorchers in there with "Absolutely sweet Marie". A country rock genius if there was ever one !!
Never 'eard of 'em. These Top 50 things are a joke anyway, the context of them needs to be closely examined for any authenticity. If you took a sample from people born between 1945 and 1952 you would probaly get a completely different top 50!
Well that leaves Steven-20 words a line-Morrisey looking for a different career. :laugh:
no doubt he will "Panic" when he realises !
You mean things like this?
He was a sweet and tender hooligan, hooligan
And he said that he'd never, never do it again
And of course he won't (oh, not until the next time)
He was a sweet and tender hooligan, hooligan
And he swore that he'll never, never do it again
And of course he won't (oh, not until the next time)
Poor old man
He had an "accident" with a three bar fire
But that's OK
Because he wasn't very happy anyway
Poor woman
Strangled in her very own bed as she read
But that's OK
Because she was old and she would have died anyway
DON'T BLAME The sweet and tender etc etc.
(great song BTW)
Never 'eard of 'em.
Get a cold one opened, , turn up loud, and enjoy !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-cF40OWeak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClKxOzN9tJk
(EDIT, agree Cloughie, those top 50 things are nonsense, but always strangely reassuring when your faves are in there anyway !!)
Get a cold one opened, , turn up loud, and enjoy !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-cF40OWeak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClKxOzN9tJk
(EDIT, agree Cloughie, those top 50 things are nonsense, but always strangely reassuring when your faves are in there anyway !!)
ts Scorchingly good!
no doubt he will "Panic" when he realises !
You mean things like this?
He was a sweet and tender hooligan, hooligan
And he said that he'd never, never do it again
And of course he won't (oh, not until the next time)
He was a sweet and tender hooligan, hooligan
And he swore that he'll never, never do it again
And of course he won't (oh, not until the next time)
Poor old man
He had an "accident" with a three bar fire
But that's OK
Because he wasn't very happy anyway
Poor woman
Strangled in her very own bed as she read
But that's OK
Because she was old and she would have died anyway
DON'T BLAME The sweet and tender etc etc.
(great song BTW)
:laugh: :ok:
no doubt he will "Panic" when he realises !
You mean things like this?
He was a sweet and tender hooligan, hooligan
And he said that he'd never, never do it again
And of course he won't (oh, not until the next time)
He was a sweet and tender hooligan, hooligan
And he swore that he'll never, never do it again
And of course he won't (oh, not until the next time)
Poor old man
He had an "accident" with a three bar fire
But that's OK
Because he wasn't very happy anyway
Poor woman
Strangled in her very own bed as she read
But that's OK
Because she was old and she would have died anyway
DON'T BLAME The sweet and tender etc etc.
(great song BTW)
Now Morrisey there's a fruitcake I've never got!
And just to say, mentioning a single song is a bit self indulgent perhaps, but tonights listening included a spin for"Man Out of Time" by Elvis Costello.
And if anybody ever made a finer record, I would like to hear it.
It is just truly sensational. I will never tire of hearing it.
And just to say, mentioning a single song is a bit self indulgent perhaps, but tonights listening included a spin for"Man Out of Time" by Elvis Costello.
And if anybody ever made a finer record, I would like to hear it.
It is just truly sensational. I will never tire of hearing it.
Great song, playing it now, thanks for the idea!
And for those bent on decipherment or just interested in mystery lyrics and backwards messages - did you know that if you change the order of words in the title,'Man out of Time' and replace some of the letters with different ones, it spells 'All You Need Is Love'?
Great song, playing it now, thanks for the idea!
And for those bent on decipherment or just interested in mystery lyrics and backwards messages - did you know that if you change the order of words in the title,'Man out of Time' and replace some of the letters with different ones, it spells 'All You Need Is Love'?
wow, Spooky !!!!!!!!!!!
I suggest replacing some of that late night Hawkwind with some Jason and the Scorchers, Beefy. Change is as good as a rest !!(Prog /country Rock fusion was never a successful genre.. perhaps its time is yet to come. Lend Jason a Yes album , and anything could happen !!)
wow, Spooky !!!!!!!!!!!
I suggest replacing some of that late night Hawkwind with some Jason and the Scorchers, Beefy. Change is as good as a rest !!(Prog /country Rock fusion was never a successful genre.. perhaps its time is yet to come. Lend Jason a Yes album , and anything could happen !!)
I think I need to build my way up to the Nashville Scorchers - think I'll stick with Hawkwind for the mo' :winkeye:
The Stranglers - School Mam from 'No More Heroes'. United Artists - 1977.
http://i.imgur.com/aBwFc.jpg (http://imgur.com/aBwFc)
UPDATE - Now playing 'Straighten Out'
Rockers! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockers_(soundtrack)
Dreadlocks flyin' tru the air, do you love me? Yea!
Now Talking Heads - Fear of Music. 1979.
http://i.imgur.com/z6FAp.jpg (http://imgur.com/z6FAp)
Rockers! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockers_(soundtrack)
Dreadlocks flyin' tru the air, do you love me? Yea!
:ok: :ok: :ok: Excellent stuff!!!
http://fursby.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/bruford.jpg
:ok: :ok: :ok: Proud owner of all three albums! Bought them as they came out. Don't forget the live album 'The Bruford Tapes'
I have quite a few H&TN recordings, but have not replaced my National Health album from vinyl to CD :sadface: Seen Bruford and Holdsworth live a few times down the years.
It was the Bruford albums (having been a Yes fan) that launched me into fusion ... subsequently followed the careers of Stewart, Holdsworth and Annette Peacock. Have seen all three live in London doing their own thing too! Also Bruford whilst in KC and Earthworks modes.
Vile Consort
27-05-12, 00:37
I don't know, but I wish the licensed premises across the road would get air conditioning so they didn't have to open the windows on warm Saturday Evenings. Ah well, at least it's live music with actual musicians.
http://fursby.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/bruford.jpg
It was the Bruford albums (having been a Yes fan) that launched me into fusion ... subsequently followed the careers of Stewart, Holdsworth and Annette Peacock. Have seen all three live in London doing their own thing too! Also Bruford whilst in KC and Earthworks modes.
Wow! Bruford in KC, if only I could have been at one of those gigs - I envy you!
And what about the amazing Jamie Muir? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiRJoXLvjPs
Wow! Bruford in KC, if only I could have been at one of those gigs - I envy you!
And what about the amazing Jamie Muir? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiRJoXLvjPs
I gather the Yes alumnus learnt (learned?) a lot from Muir - probably covered in BB's recent highly acclaimed autobiography. If you like Bruford and King Crimson, you'll likely adore (as do I) the David Torn album Cloud About Mercury. Quite unlike other fusion of the era, and with Bruford and Levin on board as co-writers/improvisers, that's the more experimental 50% of 1980s KC! I thought the lean-and-disciplined anarchy of KC's 1982 Beat couldn't be topped, then this fusion wildcard came my way...
http://fursby.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/cloud.jpg
I gather the Yes alumnus learnt (learned?) a lot from Muir - probably covered in BB's recent highly acclaimed autobiography. If you like Bruford and King Crimson, you'll likely adore (as do I) the David Torn album Cloud About Mercury. Quite unlike other fusion of the era, and with Bruford and Levin on board as co-writers/improvisers, that's the more experimental 50% of 1980s KC! I thought the lean-and-disciplined anarchy of KC's 1982 Beat couldn't be topped, then this fusion wildcard came my way...
http://fursby.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/cloud.jpg
Sounds very interesting - I will check it out. Must be available on youtube(?).
I bought the Bruford autobiography 2/3 years ago, but I am so reverent towards Mr Bruford that I will only open it when I am sure I can give it my total attention and finish it in a maximum of two sittings. I have therefore been unable to read a single sentence to this day!
I bought the Bruford autobiography 2/3 years ago, but I am so reverent towards Mr Bruford that I will only open it when I am sure I can give it my total attention and finish it in a maximum of two sittings. I have therefore been unable to read a single sentence to this day!
That's odd. I've been meaning to buy it for a couple of years, but will do so when I have not just the time, but the quality time to sit down and properly enjoy!
A King Crimson Projekct - A Scarcity Of Miracles. 2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Scarcity_of_Miracles
http://i.imgur.com/8sU8N.jpg (http://imgur.com/8sU8N)
(Prog /country Rock fusion was never a successful genre.. perhaps its time is yet to come)
Completely disagree that is was "never a successful genre" - many albums sold in the millions, in both the 70s and 80s. It certainly outsold punk and many post-punk outfits.
One myth perpetrated which really annoys me is when commentators, who ought to know better, say that Punk came along as a backlash to the Prog "dinosaurs" ... utter nonsense! 3-chord punk became near-extinct within a couple of years (quickly morphing into New Wave so we're told), and Prog was too off-the-radar for most punk artists to be able to revolt against (just look at those 1970s episodes of ToTP to see how niche it was). Some of Prog's biggest commercial successes (Yes's Drama and 90125 and Asia's Asia) came along AFTER Punk's heyday, and in the case of those Yes albums, still contained songs far too long for mainstream airplay, so happily not every prog band did a radio-friendly reinvention a la Genesis.
Boilk, it was the fusion of prog rock and country rock that never took off !! (unless I missed some Gentle Giant album recorded in Nashville !!)
I would never diss prog....my elders and betters at school could never get enough of it, and I have the scars to prove that it is better than punk !!
I do fail to grasp how you can suggest that punk wasn't a reaction to things like prog rock, though, when it quite clearly was,at least in part, and plenty of punks at the time said so.People like me who listened to punk certainly thought it was.
The fact that some prog rock was produced after 1977 is surely irrelevant ? As for sales, well some Prog sold well, and so did some punk.
Boilk, it was the fusion of prog rock and country rock that never took off !! (unless I missed some Gentle Giant album recorded in Nashville !!)
I would never diss prog....my elders and betters at school could never get enough of it, and I have the scars to prove that it is better than punk !!
Apologies, I misread your post!
I do fail to grasp how you can suggest that punk wasn't a reaction to things like prog rock, though, when it quite clearly was, at least in part, and plenty of punks at the time said so. People like me who listened to punk certainly thought it was.
I really don't think most punks back then (fans and performers in their late teens/early 20s) were even aware of the contents of Yes / Genesis / King Crimson albums. But they might have been bored to death of the easy listening offered up by the likes of The Carpenters, New Seekers, Three Degrees, Leo Sayer, et.c, pretty unchallenging middle-of-the-road product that populated 90% of Top of the Pops.
The fact that some prog rock was produced after 1977 is surely irrelevant?
Not some prog, but most prog. But Punk hardly killed off Prog - what it did do is put more aggression into mainstream pop ... also, listening to the whole Bee Gees / disco phenomenon in the late 70s, you might be forgiven for thinking punk never happened for an entire European and American generation :winkeye:
Completely disagree that is was "never a successful genre" - many albums sold in the millions, in both the 70s and 80s. It certainly outsold punk and many post-punk outfits.
One myth perpetrated which really annoys me is when commentators, who ought to know better, say that Punk came along as a backlash to the Prog "dinosaurs" ... utter nonsense! 3-chord punk became near-extinct within a couple of years (quickly morphing into New Wave so we're told), and Prog was too off-the-radar for most punk artists to be able to revolt against (just look at those 1970s episodes of ToTP to see how niche it was). Some of Prog's biggest commercial successes (Yes's Drama and 90125 and Asia's Asia) came along AFTER Punk's heyday, and in the case of those Yes albums, still contained songs far too long for mainstream airplay, so happily not every prog band did a radio-friendly reinvention a la Genesis.
At last someone else who didn't get punk - it was not refreshing it was awful and very poor musically. What came out of punk were the musicians who would have made it without the punk tag.
A King Crimson Projekct - A Scarcity Of Miracles. 2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Scarcity_of_Miracles
http://i.imgur.com/8sU8N.jpg (http://imgur.com/8sU8N)
Wow - is it good or is it good and should I buy it? - I saw Jakko fronting Twentyfirst Century Schizoid Band back in 2002 - doing a very good job, alongside former members of King Crimson's early line-ups, playing Fripp's guitar licks and doing Greg Lakes's vocals. An evening to remember forever.
Manfred Mann - Five Faces of Manfred Mann!
MrGongGong
27-05-12, 22:46
At last someone else who didn't get punk - it was not refreshing it was awful and very poor musically. .
Really ?
you might not like the aesthetic but many punk bands were very tight musically speaking
the whole "sex pistols" can't play myth was very successful as a marketing tool
Really ?
you might not like the aesthetic but many punk bands were very tight musically speaking
the whole "sex pistols" can't play myth was very successful as a marketing tool
Precisely my point - good musicians 'using' the punk tag. If you're going to quote me, include my last sentence which confirms what you say!
MrGongGong
27-05-12, 22:59
Precisely my point - good musicians 'using' the punk tag. If you're going to quote me, include my last sentence which confirms what you say!
Crass ?
Crass ?
Yes you probably are!
MrGongGong
27-05-12, 23:20
Yes you probably are!
No I mean these folk :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYgSfNGkwbo&feature=related
:ale:
At last someone else who didn't get punk - it was not refreshing it was awful and very poor musically.
I think I did get punk, within a few minutes :laugh:
What came out of punk were the musicians who would have made it without the punk tag.
...such as Killing Joke, at their best astonishingly potent. Was Jaz Coleman the only truly talented one, though?
No I mean these folk :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYgSfNGkwbo&feature=related
:ale:
Not heard them before (hence my response)- propbably not go out of my way to hear them again but I concede that of their genre they're not bad and quite creative.
MrGongGong
27-05-12, 23:36
Not heard them before (hence my response)- propbably not go out of my way to hear them again but I concede that of their genre they're not bad and quite creative.
So, hang on a moment
that's a bit like me saying
"I don't like Classical Music, not that i've ever heard any Mozart" ................
Crass are hardly niche punk ? or is it just me ?
:cool:
Not heard them before (hence my response)- propbably not go out of my way to hear them again but I concede that of their genre they're not bad and quite creative.
They were from down the road from me. Part of the Small Wonder firm, which was in the same road as my school. Ah, those were the days!
So, hang on a moment
that's a bit like me saying
"I don't like Classical Music, not that i've ever heard any Mozart" ................
Crass are hardly niche punk ? or is it just me ?
:cool:
Quite so - I'm sure you'd love Mozart if you heard some - try K452!
They were from down the road from me. Part of the Small Wonder firm, which was in the same road as my school. Ah, those were the days!
Never mind all that what about Jakko and Fripp - is it anty good?
Never mind all that what about Jakko and Fripp - is it anty good?
Don't dismiss my teenage years like that :sadface:
Jakko and Fripp is pretty good, but not as good as the cover! listen to a bit here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOxn2GTGa2U
Labels like "Punk" or "prog rock" are just that..labels, which might loosely connect groups with some core value.
The new york punk bands, Ramones, Talking Heads, Blondie , Television, were very different to each other. really. Cloughie's point that the good ones would have been successful without punk is probably true..but punk did cause a huge surge of artistic creativity that lasted well beyond 1977....British Ska, post punk, new Romantics ,(and especially in the fashion industry) 80's electro pop to name a few , all had their roots in punk. The DIY ethic, in the pre home computer age, was really important, and very liberating for a lot of people.
Often , the creativity is channelled is down to the time you live in. Queen I think are a great example. They could turn their hand to anything they wanted. If they had been 5 years younger, its not impossible that they might have picked up on punk, and been the greatest punk band of them all, before developing their music in the way that,for instance, Elvis Costello did.Just an idle speculation of course !!
Don't dismiss my teenage years like that :sadface:
Jakko and Fripp is pretty good, but not as good as the cover! listen to a bit here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOxn2GTGa2U
Sounds Ok but I reckon ambient noodling rather than vintage Crimson (whatever that is - choose your own line-up/vintage). Jakko's vocals are good - when I saw him live I was impressed at the way he got into the Greg Lake mould.
You punk fans can rejoice! Starting this Friday, there is
a 3-part series on BBC Four entitled Punk Britannia.
The first programme is Pre-Punk 1972-1976, notice how the write-up (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00s81jz) throws in that cliche "Reacting against overblown super rock of the day...", but at least it also says "...and the glam their younger sisters like on Top of the Pops".
Why don't social factors come into the generalist claims made? It was a decade of economic gloom, double-digit wage increase demands, and strikes galore. Things were so bad that bankrupt Britain went to the IMF with its begging bowl. There was a lot of justifiably disenchanted youth back then with far more important things to rebel against than 15-minute Yes and Pink Floyd songs! You have to laugh when commentators attribute the rise of Punk, in the main, to pre-existing musical rather than social factors.
Boilk I think you are right about some of the root causes of punk. The "Anti dinosaur " part of it was just the direction that the music took, pre empted as the preview to the BBC series says, but the pub rockers.
Feels sad that the blast of excitement that punk was for many of us, is now just a series of documentaries.
Great to see the Feelgoods getting some top billing...I recommend "Oil City Confidential" as a decent watch if you like your R and B /Pub rock.
There is no substitute for Wilko on form ! Took Mrs TS to see him for my birthday treat (I know what the girls like !!) and she had never seen anything like it. And as for Norm....he is a nights enterrtainment on his own. Pure bass playing genius !!
pastoralguy
28-05-12, 12:34
we're listening to the new Paloma Faith album, 'Fall to Grace'. Great singer, composer and general persona!!
we're listening to the new Paloma Faith album, 'Fall to Grace'. Great singer, composer and general persona!!
Never heard of this artist before your post. Just had a quick read on Wiki - sounds interesting, I will check her out on youtube or similar.
Pablo Honey.Radiohead.
also, " A kind of Blue". Due to my immense ignorance of this music, this is still in my "Pet Sounds/Whats going on" category.
I am no doubt not listening correctly.
Never heard of this artist before your post. Just had a quick read on Wiki - sounds interesting, I will check her out on youtube or similar.
Subject of one of the most idiotic questions of the year. Heard her being interviewed by Phil Williams on five live. She excitedly saying how she had worked on a live show with Prince, and the first question Williams could come up with was ......" And how small IS prince?"
amazing. Our money pays for that.
Subject of one of the most idiotic questions of the year. Heard her being interviewed by Phil Williams on five live. She excitedly saying how she had worked on a live show with Prince, and the first question Williams could come up with was ......" And how small IS prince?"
amazing. Our money pays for that.
Sadly, he probably thought he was being pretty smart.
Subject of one of the most idiotic questions of the year. Heard her being interviewed by Phil Williams on five live. She excitedly saying how she had worked on a live show with Prince, and the first question Williams could come up with was ......" And how small IS prince?"
amazing. Our money pays for that.
My GP surgery allows 3 items per appointment. Although your issue isn't a major problem, you might want to discuss it with your GP next time you are there.
Sadly, he probably thought he was being pretty smart.
a kind of smartness he learnt from , oh I don't know, Jeremy Vine perhaps ?
They are both subject to a long term Teamsaint Boycott. That will teach them !!
a kind of smartness he learnt from , oh I don't know, Jeremy Vine perhaps ?
They are both subject to a long term Teamsaint Boycott. That will teach them !!
Christ!! They will be gutted!!
Christ!! They will be gutted!!
sadly, because i am boycotting them, I don't know !!
(at this point a clever classically educated person would add a suitable latin quote....but I only know "quam Celerrime" ...as fast as possible. Won't wash on here, but fools people if you trot it out confidently if you are in a certain type of company !!)
My GP surgery allows 3 items per appointment. Although your issue isn't a major problem, you might want to discuss it with your GP next time you are there.
its not at all clear what you are suggesting about whom here..but you seem knowledgeable !!
its not at all clear what you are suggesting about whom here..but you seem knowledgeable !!
Is it you that's got the Sibelius problem?
sadly, because i am boycotting them, I don't know !!
(at this point a clever classically educated person would add a suitable latin quote....but I only know "quam Celerrime" ...as fast as possible. Won't wash on here, but fools people if you trot it out confidently if you are in a certain type of company !!)
Have you been on the turps this evening teamsaint?????
Is it you that's got the Sibelius problem?
Nah, but I would think a trip to Scandinavia could sort it out if I did !
Have you been on the turps this evening teamsaint?????
asda lager....let that be a warning if you need one. (doesn't seem to improve my "Jazz ear" either !)
Mind you, one thing i have clicked tonight....its very obvious that Mahler wasn't on piecework rates, and didn't get paid by the movement. I have been listening to #3 mvt one since before sun down !!nice though.
MrGongGong
28-05-12, 22:30
"Jazz ear"
Is that like this ?
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/bad-dog-cafe/145254-anyone-suffer-cello-scrotum-guitarists-nipple.html
asda lager....let that be a warning if you need one. (doesn't seem to improve my "Jazz ear" either !)
Mind you, one thing i have clicked tonight....its very obvious that Mahler wasn't on piecework rates, and didn't get paid by the movement. I have been listening to #3 mvt one since before sun down !!nice though.
not crazy about Mahler#1. Have a solti and an abbado. Hans Rott is better if you like taht sort of thing.
Nah, but I would think a trip to Scandinavia could sort it out if I did !
Failing that have a listen to Pohjola's Daughter, En Saga, Leminkainen Suite (adjust the order to Leminkainen and the Maidens, Leminkainen in Tuonela, Swan, Leminkainen's Return). If that doesn't crack it have a break from Sibelius and listen to King Crimson's In the Court of the Crimson King.
Is that like this ?
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/bad-dog-cafe/145254-anyone-suffer-cello-scrotum-guitarists-nipple.html
My laptop caught the clap off that link - careful what you're spreading around Mr GG!!!
Is that like this ?
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/bad-dog-cafe/145254-anyone-suffer-cello-scrotum-guitarists-nipple.html
or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpy's_Rusty_Nuts
Dunno? but i don't fancy getting any of them !
eno - taking tiger mountain by strategy
http://i.imgur.com/zOY1Y.jpg (http://imgur.com/zOY1Y)
Is that like this ?
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/bad-dog-cafe/145254-anyone-suffer-cello-scrotum-guitarists-nipple.html
Anything like Boxcar Willie?
Failing that have a listen to Pohjola's Daughter, En Saga, Leminkainen Suite (adjust the order to Leminkainen and the Maidens, Leminkainen in Tuonela, Swan, Leminkainen's Return). If that doesn't crack it have a break from Sibelius and listen to King Crimson's In the Court of the Crimson King.
don't tell me, tell ER .
Nice gatefold covers all those prog rockers did. Wouldn't have been half the fun in the CD age !
[QUOTE=Beef Oven;167409]not crazy about Mahler#1. Have a solti and an abbado. Hans Rott is better if you like taht sort of thing.
#3 was the one in question Beefy.
I like #1.
I heard they get better as you go along !!
[QUOTE=Beef Oven;167409]not crazy about Mahler#1. Have a solti and an abbado. Hans Rott is better if you like taht sort of thing.
#3 was the one in question Beefy.
I like #1.
I heard they get better as you go along !!
yeah, I'd go with that. have you bought a cycle?
Bertini after comprehensive research .(or asking on the board as its known).
Folks on the board said it was good , and its £17 on amazon. Sounds good to me, but haven't compared with any of my existing discs yet.
Bloody details on when transferring to cd in Japanese though. never mind.
[QUOTE=teamsaint;167418]
yeah, I'd go with that. have you bought a cycle?
Was going to but then thought who wants a load of Rott? Or was it mahler you meant?
Oh Noes, the confused quote thing is happening again !!
Bertini after comprehensive research .(or asking on the board as its known).
Folks on the board said it was good , and its £17 on amazon. Sounds good to me, but haven't compared with any of my existing discs yet.
Bloody details on when transferring to cd in Japanese though. never mind.
amazing price! never heard any bertini - i hear it's good, but unadventurous.
Oh Noes, the confused quote thing is happening again !!
indeed!
amazing price! never heard any bertini - i hear it's good, but unadventurous.
Beef and ts
I have a few sets of Mahler Syms - each has strengths in different symphonies, don't know if I've an overall favourite set - Kubelik. Tennstedt and Bernstein (DG or Sony) all good.
Beef and ts
I have a few sets of Mahler Syms - each has strengths in different symphonies, don't know if I've an overall favourite set - Kubelik. Tennstedt and Bernstein (DG or Sony) all good.
i have squillions of mahler cds - all the usual suspects, but in all the years, i've never bought a complete cycle (as i have done with almost every other composer).
my faves? (i know you didn't ask!!):
abbado (chicago) for 1
Klempere for 2 (1960s)
vaclav neuman for 3
karajan or szell for 4
barbirolli or karajan for 5
lenny, abbado (BPO) or karajan for 6
lenny for 7
kubelik for 8
karajan, Bruno Maderna or abbado (BPO) for 9
barshai for 10
NOW PLAYING
http://i.imgur.com/8cDyA.jpg (http://imgur.com/8cDyA)
i have squillions of mahler cds - all the usual suspects, but in all the years, i've never bought a complete cycle (as i have done with almost every other composer).
my faves? (i know you didn't ask!!):
abbado (chicago) for 1
Klempere for 2 (1960s)
vaclav neuman for 3
karajan or szell for 4
barbirolli or karajan for 5
lenny, abbado (BPO) or karajan for 6
lenny for 7
kubelik for 8
karajan, Bruno Maderna or abbado (BPO) for 9
barshai for 10
NOW PLAYING
http://i.imgur.com/8cDyA.jpg (http://imgur.com/8cDyA)
After all these years I've not cracked 6-10, but I would go for
1 Ancerl, Kubelik, Solti (LSO), Walter or Ozawa(DG)
2 Rattle, Abbado (CSO), Walter, Klemperer (1960), Bernstein (LSO)
3 Abbado(LFO), Tilson-Thomas(LSO), Bernstein (DG), Boulez, Horenstein
4 Abbado(VPO), Szell, Tennstedt, Karajan, Zinman
5 Barbirolli, Bernstein (DG), Karajan, Kubelik, Zinman
Then it could all change!
Can - Tago Mago. United Artists 1971.
http://i.imgur.com/dJAyr.jpg
Bertini after comprehensive research .(or asking on the board as its known).
Folks on the board said it was good , and its £17 on amazon. Sounds good to me, but haven't compared with any of my existing discs yet.
Bloody details on when transferring to cd in Japanese though. never mind.Bertini set - the Japanese details are a pain!
I have this, and also recently bought Walter's set.
I quite like Beef Oven's suggestions, though I'd go for Solti in number 8.
I even have Gergiev's LSO live version. I was at the performance - somewhat confused sound in St. Pauls. I can't say that the recording catches it perfectly. I feel sure that some of it is as muddled as the live sound, while some of it may have been improved.
I'm not sure how to view that one - maybe as a sort of impressive mess.
Not quite sure why we're discussing Mahler in this thread though - I thought it was for anything but classical stuff.
Back to the music - anyone got views on Melody Gardot?
Not quite sure why we're discussing Mahler in this thread though - I thought it was for anything but classical stuff.
The beauty of the universal charm of music, Dave!
After all these years I've not cracked 6-10, but I would go for
1 Ancerl, Kubelik, Solti (LSO), Walter or Ozawa(DG)
2 Rattle, Abbado (CSO), Walter, Klemperer (1960), Bernstein (LSO)
3 Abbado(LFO), Tilson-Thomas(LSO), Bernstein (DG), Boulez, Horenstein
4 Abbado(VPO), Szell, Tennstedt, Karajan, Zinman
5 Barbirolli, Bernstein (DG), Karajan, Kubelik, Zinman
Then it could all change!
Oh yes, Rattle in #2. Total oversight - I adore that recording. It's all in the first movement.
MrGongGong
29-05-12, 15:47
Pan Sonic : AALTOPIIRI :ok: Finnish Bleep an bloop masters
Serial_Apologist
29-05-12, 15:50
Pan Sonic : AALTOPIIRI :ok: Finnish Bleep an bloop masters
Time for a "Bring Back Mixing It" thread, GG?
MrGongGong
29-05-12, 15:52
Time for a "Bring Back Mixing It" thread, GG?
:ok::ale:
Bertini set - the Japanese details are a pain!
I have this, and also recently bought Walter's set.
I quite like Beef Oven's suggestions, though I'd go for Solti in number 8.
I even have Gergiev's LSO live version. I was at the performance - somewhat confused sound in St. Pauls. I can't say that the recording catches it perfectly. I feel sure that some of it is as muddled as the live sound, while some of it may have been improved.
I'm not sure how to view that one - maybe as a sort of impressive mess.
Not quite sure why we're discussing Mahler in this thread though - I thought it was for anything but classical stuff.
I was at that St Paul's gig too. In 2008. I heard it 3 times, once from the band, once from the ceiling and once from the back wall!!
MrGongGong
29-05-12, 16:02
Inspired by Mr Beef
i'm now listening to this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkYX7zt62e0&feature=related
:laugh::ale:
Inspired by Mr Beef
i'm now listening to this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkYX7zt62e0&feature=related
:laugh::ale:
:laugh: :ok: (I still think you are a tosser though)
MrGongGong
29-05-12, 16:20
:laugh: :ok: (I still think you are a tosser though)
How nice
Surely Farrage is the epitome of the word ?
and one of the biggest laughs I've ever had was old Kilroy loosing so spectacularly :laugh:
How nice
Surely Farrage is the epitome of the word ?
and one of the biggest laughs I've ever had was old Kilroy loosing so spectacularly :laugh:
looser :laugh: Kilroy certainly was!!!
MrGongGong
29-05-12, 16:22
looser :laugh:
What is this ? teenage US punk chat ?
and back on track
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgSPaXgAdzE
:ok:
What is this ? teenage US punk chat ?
and back on track
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgSPaXgAdzE
:ok:
:ok: great clip (I still think you are a pancake flipper)
MrGongGong
29-05-12, 16:31
:ok: great clip (I still think you are a pancake flipper)
There's a tune for everything (as Merzbow would say !) :whistle:
There's a tune for everything (as Merzbow would say !) :whistle:
Merzbow!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe you aint a pancake flipper after all!!!
MrGongGong
29-05-12, 16:42
Merzbow!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe you aint a pancake flipper after all!!!
I last saw him at this gig
(at a festival part funded by the EU so :ok: to the faceless ones in Brussels !)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it5huNqxF3w
darling , they're playing our song :whistle:
Can - Mother Sky from 'Soundtracks' Can't remember what film this was used in.
http://i.imgur.com/BkQsw.jpg (http://imgur.com/BkQsw)
heliocentric
29-05-12, 19:15
I last saw him at this gig I've heard Merzbow play live but I didn't actually see him because the volume in the foyer was quite sufficient for my sensitive ears, and I am no wimp when it comes to volume in case you were wondering.
Which reminds me - did any of present company attend Glenn Branca's ensemble at Riverside Studios in (something like) 1981? That was certainly the loudest couple of hours of my entire life.
I'm glad to have tracked down this thread by the way - nobody's posted on the contemporary music board for almost a month and I was wondering if everyone here was only listening to Delius these days. Actually I'm listening to Petrouchka as I write, but as it happens yesterday I listened to Tubular Bells (yes, of course the original 1973 version) after not doing so since the 1970s. My word, the second "side" is vapid and pointless.
I last saw him at this gig
(at a festival part funded by the EU so :ok: to the faceless ones in Brussels !)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it5huNqxF3w
darling , they're playing our song :whistle:
:ok: would've loved to been at that gig
this is amazing - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=_QZFWzmGYBE
I've heard Merzbow play live but I didn't actually see him because the volume in the foyer was quite sufficient for my sensitive ears, and I am no wimp when it comes to volume in case you were wondering.
Which reminds me - did any of present company attend Glenn Branca's ensemble at Riverside Studios in (something like) 1981? That was certainly the loudest couple of hours of my entire life.
I'm glad to have tracked down this thread by the way - nobody's posted on the contemporary music board for almost a month and I was wondering if everyone here was only listening to Delius these days. Actually I'm listening to Petrouchka as I write, but as it happens yesterday I listened to Tubular Bells (yes, of course the original 1973 version) after not doing so since the 1970s. My word, the second "side" is vapid and pointless.
Just the second side?
Just the second side?
A prime cause of the punk era, that album, if I am not very much mistaken !
A prime cause of the punk era, that album, if I am not very much mistaken !
egg wetter gree
heliocentric
29-05-12, 19:43
Just the second side?
Well, I enjoyed rehearing the sound of it more than anything else, though I don't expect I'll listen to it again for another few decades now if ever. What I did find impressive was the way it was pushing up against the limits of what you could do with multitracking in those days - and beyond in fact: a lot of it is really not very well together at all, and there are moments where things no doubt have ended up being weirdly balanced and/or equalised because of having to bounce down to make space for new tracks, none of which you'd hear now that everyone has unlimited recording tracks in their shoulderbag and everything can be quantised to perfection.
heliocentric
29-05-12, 19:51
A prime cause of the punk era, that album, if I am not very much mistaken ! None of it would ever have happened without Mike Oldfield, that's for sure. :laugh:
Somehow mentioning it now brought to mind that amusing incident in which (I think I have this right) Noel Gallagher bought a clifftop villa on Ibiza from Oldfield, complained about the yacht parked in the bay next door before finding out it belonged to the villa and therefore to him, and then (successfully) sued Oldfield because he hadn't mentioned when selling the house that it was actually subsiding into the sea. They sound like a right couple of charmers.
None of it would ever have happened without Mike Oldfield, that's for sure. :laugh:
Somehow mentioning it now brought to mind that amusing incident in which (I think I have this right) Noel Gallagher bought a clifftop villa on Ibiza from Oldfield, complained about the yacht parked in the bay next door before finding out it belonged to the villa and therefore to him, and then (successfully) sued Oldfield because he hadn't mentioned when selling the house that it was actually subsiding into the sea. They sound like a right couple of charmers.
quite, Man city fans all too big for their boots these days !!
I am having a listen to yorkshire lefties chumbawumba' Latest ABCDEFG at the minute.
None of it would ever have happened without Mike Oldfield, that's for sure. :laugh:
Somehow mentioning it now brought to mind that amusing incident in which (I think I have this right) Noel Gallagher bought a clifftop villa on Ibiza from Oldfield, complained about the yacht parked in the bay next door before finding out it belonged to the villa and therefore to him, and then (successfully) sued Oldfield because he hadn't mentioned when selling the house that it was actually subsiding into the sea. They sound like a right couple of charmers.
I always think that NG should have an honorary degree for making anti-social behaviour into an art-form - if ever a guy had a face with a built-in sneer - 'tis he.
Well, I enjoyed rehearing the sound of it more than anything else, though I don't expect I'll listen to it again for another few decades now if ever. What I did find impressive was the way it was pushing up against the limits of what you could do with multitracking in those days - and beyond in fact: a lot of it is really not very well together at all, and there are moments where things no doubt have ended up being weirdly balanced and/or equalised because of having to bounce down to make space for new tracks, none of which you'd hear now that everyone has unlimited recording tracks in their shoulderbag and everything can be quantised to perfection.
well, actually I did like it for a while then I got really bored of it. prefer ommadawn.
'Ys' by Italian Proggers 'Il Balletto di Bronzo' 1972
http://i.imgur.com/Kv7lI.jpg
Brian Eno - Discreet Music. Label: EG. 1975.
http://i.imgur.com/HDFuU.jpg (http://imgur.com/HDFuU)
David Sylvian - Secrets of the Beehive. Virgin, 1987.
http://i.imgur.com/SgjOB.jpg (http://imgur.com/SgjOB)
Beefy, you got Sylvian/'s "The First day"? What you reckon ?
Couldn't get the hang of it myself !
verismissimo
30-05-12, 11:46
Florrie Forde :smiley:
Beefy, you got Sylvian/'s "The First day"? What you reckon ?
Couldn't get the hang of it myself !
No, I haven't got it and I've never heard it.
I really only ever dipped in and out of DS. Never moved beyond Brilliant Trees & Behive.
Flirted with Japan in the late 70s early 80s when I was looking for decent post-punk acts, but never majored on it.
Florrie Forde :smiley:
Has anyone here seen Kelly? :winkeye:
Serial_Apologist
30-05-12, 11:56
:ok: would've loved to been at that gig
this is amazing - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=_QZFWzmGYBE
Does the masochism involved in joyfully inflicting damage on the ear, and probably the organism as a whole, read across to other areas in life? E.g. politics?
Does the masochism involved in joyfully inflicting damage on the ear, and probably the organism as a whole, read across to other areas in life? E.g. politics?
Yes, for liberals and socialists it is an essential :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Serial_Apologist
30-05-12, 12:00
Yes, for liberals and socialists it is an essential :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Thought so... :whistle:
No, I haven't got it and I've never heard it.
I really only ever dipped in and out of DS. Never moved beyond Brilliant Trees & Behive.
Flirted with Japan in the late 70s early 80s when I was looking for decent post-punk acts, but never majored on it.
will try it again and report back !! not full of hope though.
(Japan's track record was mixed at best really, but the odd good moment).
will try it again and report back !! not full of hope though.
(Japan's track record was mixed at best really, but the odd good moment).
Yeah, I might check it out for the first time.
I really only ever dipped in and out of DS. Never moved beyond Brilliant Trees & Behive.
Flirted with Japan in the late 70s early 80s when I was looking for decent post-punk acts, but never majored on it.
There are indeed some fine moments on Sylvian's Gone to Earth (helped in no small measure by guitarists Fripp/Bill Nelson and pedal steelist B.J. Cole) and Beehive with guitarist and co-producer David Torn.
There are also some amazing tracks on the solo albums of the late Mick Karn. Perhaps the Mick Karn Collector's Edition is a good starting point ...
http://fursby.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/karn.jpg
There are indeed some fine moments on Sylvian's Gone to Earth (helped in no small measure by guitarists Fripp/Bill Nelson and pedal steelist B.J. Cole) and Beehive with guitarist and co-producer David Torn.
There are also some amazing tracks on the solo albums of the late Mick Karn. Perhaps the Mick Karn Collector's Edition is a good starting point ...
http://fursby.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/karn.jpg
Never thought about checking Mick Karn's stuff out - will give it a go.
now playing
http://i.imgur.com/Ha7S3.jpg (http://imgur.com/Ha7S3)
I tried the Sylvian/fripp again. Never get past track 4. It just doesn't do it for me.
I have all too little Bill Nelson. Anyone got any really good recommendations. All i have is some Be bop Deluxe, and "quit Dreaming".
He always seems like one of the good guys.
(could do with him on the "Platform 3" Board at the moment !! )
I tried the Sylvian/fripp again. Never get past track 4. It just doesn't do it for me.
I have all too little Bill Nelson. Anyone got any really good recommendations. All i have is some Be bop Deluxe, and "quit Dreaming".
He always seems like one of the good guys.
(could do with him on the "Platform 3" Board at the moment !! )
All I have is the BBDeluxe stuff - I remember not liking his Red Nose too much :laugh:
All I have is the BBDeluxe stuff - I remember not liking his Red Nose too much :laugh:
It was a choice of name that was asking for trouble.
"Quit Dreaming " is a really good album.Won't change your life.
Good tracks to youtube might be "Do you dream in colour", "Banal" "Living in My Limousine". most tracks are good.
Funny thing to say, but some artists I just get a really positive vibe off, even if its not my absolute favourite music. Tom Petty, Bill Nelson would be two. Also, get a bit of a negative off some, even though the music is great...The Stones, perhaps. All a bit hippyish, but I felt the need to share !!
It was a choice of name that was asking for trouble.
"Quit Dreaming " is a really good album.Won't change your life.
Good tracks to youtube might be "Do you dream in colour", "Banal" "Living in My Limousine". most tracks are good.
Funny thing to say, but some artists I just get a really positive vibe off, even if its not my absolute favourite music. Tom Petty, Bill Nelson would be two. Also, get a bit of a negative off some, even though the music is great...The Stones, perhaps. All a bit hippyish, but I felt the need to share !!
I remember 'do you dream in colour' - good track.
Tom Petty :ok:
Stones :ok:
currently.. Scott Walker....Scott 4.
Just love the way he does what he wants to do, and doesn't seem to care what anyone think !!
currently.. Scott Walker....Scott 4.
Just love the way he does what he wants to do, and doesn't seem to care what anyone think !!
bit like you, eh teamsaint :winkeye:
Birds of a feather, me and Scott..and we both like a trip to the Isle of Wight from time to time !!
Anybody know Scotts recent work..............?
Birds of a feather, me and Scott..and we both like a trip to the Isle of Wight from time to time !!
Anybody know Scotts recent work..............?
never been to the isle of wight - level 42-land innit?
signature: 'We seek an amicable divorce from the European Union and its replacement with a genuine free-trade agreement, which is what we thought we'd signed up to in the first place'
never been to the isle of wight - level 42-land innit?
signature: 'We seek an amicable divorce from the European Union and its replacement with a genuine free-trade agreement, which is what we thought we'd signed up to in the first place'
Mark and the boys are easily the most up to date thing from the island ! Its, well, a time warp.
but nice enough. Tom Petty headlining the friday night this year.
Mark and the boys are easily the most up to date thing from the island ! Its, well, a time warp.
but nice enough. Tom Petty headlining the friday night this year.
what day is TP playing?
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