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Don Petter
18-12-10, 12:14
I recently returned from a week’s holiday, and was interested to see how the new Forum was faring. Pretty well it would seem. My What’s New? extended to nine pages, which took a while to work through (see footnote). Everyone seemed to be settling in, with few surprises, though ff had taken away our badge for reaching 100 posts, which was a bit disappointing for we anoraks who were feverishly heading towards Seniordom. Apparently the only badge now left is for History and Knowledge of The Archers, but this, of course, is sacrosanct.

We were in Venice, which we have visited many times over the years, usually in early December, when the prices are (relatively) low and the other tourists (relatively) absent. I sometimes wonder if, because of intense population pressure in their small islands, there is a law in Japan that at any one time 15% of their countryfolk must always be in Venice. Of course the actual sample is continually changing, and these days they fly in and out, rather than march overland, four abreast, like that wonderful illustration of the Chinamen in Ripley’s Believe It Or Not. But I digress (and must now probably dodge the PC police).

Venice is renowned for (relatively) not changing, and I am happy to report that the CD shop near the Rialto (Il Tempio Della Musica) is still there and seemingly thriving. No longer run by the old couple, but by, we think, their son, it had a vast stock of classical CDs, with quite a few other genres as well. This is now the last outpost for serious discophiles in Venice, since the Ricordi shop closed some years ago. Prices are, naturally for the location, full, and there are few bargains for those of us used to electronic shopping. I did buy two CDs for €6 each – Hands up those who knew that Offenbach had written operettas called Pepito and Daphnis et Chloe. I thought not, neither did I. These will perhaps be reported on in the Recent Purchases thread.

Musical offerings in the city were much as expected. Every other church seemed to be hosting a concert of the usual baroquery – 95% Vivaldi with one Mozart piece to add a little gravitas. The Fenice was advertising a vocal concert in honour of Carlo Bergonzi. None attracted us particularly, though in a previous year we have been to a concert in the pre-burnt Fenice which was well worth it for the venue alone. Apart from anything else, prices for even the lesser concerts started at €25. I mean, if you stay away from the San Marco area you could get a pizza for that.


[Footnote: When you are, say, two pages into What’s New?, and you view a thread, you can, as normal, use the back button to return to your place. However, if while viewing a thread, you decide to subscribe to it, as far as I can see there is no way back to your previous page in What’s New? from the subscription page. You have to start again at page one and remember which page you had got to. Thoughts or solutions anyone?]

kernelbogey
18-12-10, 14:21
Don P - Although I've been to Venice only twice, my knowledge of it has been deepened by Donna Leon's excellent detective novels about Commissario Brunetti. Do you know these? They are steeped in the atmosphere of the city. I've just started Jan Morris's famous book, too.

Eine Alpensinfonie
18-12-10, 14:28
Everyone seemed to be settling in, with few surprises, though ff had taken away our badge for reaching 100 posts, which was a bit disappointing for we anoraks who were feverishly heading towards Seniordom. It will be interesting to know whether Senior Citizenship will be reached on 1000 postings (for which I am now on the downhill slope, with french frank comfortably in the lead).

Don Petter
18-12-10, 15:22
It will be interesting to know whether Senior Citizenship will be reached on 1000 postings (for which I am now on the downhill slope, with french frank comfortably in the lead).

I though I remembered that ff had decided that we are now to be all equal in the eyes of the world, and are therefore all to remain in the Full uniform, the rather drab grey of the posting classes, and don't be seen without your Keir Hardie cap ...

french frank
18-12-10, 16:05
I though I remembered that ff had decided that we are now to be all equal in the eyes of the world, and are therefore all to remain in the Full uniform, the rather drab grey of the posting classes, and don't be seen without your Keir Hardie cap ...Yes, I think it's set for Seniority at 1,000. ff started off with a fair number of posts already on the clock and has been kept rather busy since the relaunch ...:winkeye:

I think drab grey is rather fetching, but if there was strong general support for a recognition of long srvice ...

Don Petter
18-12-10, 17:02
<< Don P - Although I've been to Venice only twice, my knowledge of it has been deepened by Donna Leon's excellent detective novels about Commissario Brunetti. Do you know these? They are steeped in the atmosphere of the city. I've just started Jan Morris's famous book, too. >>


kb,

No, I don’t know them. Perhaps I should follow your lead, though I never normally read fiction. (My loss, I’m sure.) I do know Jan Morris’s excellent book, and was just thinking last week as we passed sight of the ossuary of Sant’Ariano across the lagoon that I should read it again, as I remember her mentioning it with some humour.

I first visited Venice on a college trip in 1964, and SWMBO and I have been going there regularly since 1979. Once it hooks you, it is difficult to escape. Each time there are those items which must be visited to reassure ourselves that all is still well, sort of touchstones of stability in an otherwise rapidly changing world. In our case these include the owl with knees (sitting on top of Britannia’s helmet on the sculpture in the Giardini), that clock painted on the church wall in the Via Garibaldi, always at half past nine, the cannon ball in the wall of the church near the Three Umbrellas, and those ‘30s tailors' dummy heads in the window of the shop on the way to the station, one of which seems to be modelled on George Formby. (You will gather that we are by no means the normal Venetian tourists.)

There are changes of course. The roaming cats have all gone, even from that cat shanty town which used to be down towards Sant’Elena, which has undoubtedly pleased the sparrows and pigeons, and, disappointingly, this year we saw no snowy egrets on the lagoon. (With great control, I will refrain from quoting Edith Piaf.) Perhaps now they are not uncommon in the South of England, they have all come over here to join the pioneers, probably to enjoy better reciprocal social services in their old age.

Don Petter
18-12-10, 17:10
Yes, I think it's set for Seniority at 1,000. ff started off with a fair number of posts already on the clock and has been kept rather busy since the relaunch ...:winkeye:

I think drab grey is rather fetching, but if there was strong general support for a recognition of long srvice ...

Oh! I'd better get going again. No more holidays 'til I get to 1000.

And drab grey is fine by me, better than pink Lycra any day.

Don Petter
19-12-10, 21:42
Don P - Although I've been to Venice only twice, my knowledge of it has been deepened by Donna Leon's excellent detective novels about Commissario Brunetti. Do you know these? They are steeped in the atmosphere of the city. I've just started Jan Morris's famous book, too.

kb,

I've just ordered a copy of Death at La Fenice, which I gather is the first of the series. I am looking forward to it.

Lateralthinking1
19-12-10, 22:21
Welcome back. I love record shops run by old couples. I went into one in a smallish town in the Netherlands that was wholly jazz. In ten minutes, they told me the entire life stories of Ruud Brink and the Trio Pim Jacobs. You just wouldn't get that in a Verging or an HVM.

johnb
19-12-10, 23:01
I only tried one of Donna Leon's novels and it didn't appeal to me.

However, the opening of Jan Morris' Venice is very evocative indeed - highly recommended.

On the only time I've ever visited Venice I stayed at the Bucintoro, a small hotel on the Riva degli Schiavoni, slightly sticking out, just past the canal to the Arsenale. It has windows facing towards the Ducal Palace in one direction and San Giorgio n the other - the views from the room were absolutely marvellous (scanned from a colour photo):

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2160/bucintoroviewdayv1rs.jpg

Don Petter
19-12-10, 23:10
I only tried one of Donna Leon's novels and it didn't appeal to me.

However, the opening of Jan Morris' Venice is very evocative indeed - highly recommended.

On the only time I've ever visited Venice I stayed at the Bucintoro, a small hotel on the Riva degli Schiavoni, slightly sticking out, just past the canal to the Arsenale. It has windows facing towards the Ducal Palace in one direction and San Giorgio n the other - the views from the room were absolutely marvellous (scanned from a colour photo):

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2160/bucintoroviewdayv1rs.jpg

I'll be interested, as very much a non-detective book person, to see how I react to Donna Leon. At least I haven't invested that much in the trial. As I have said before, I really value Jan Morris's book, and must find it to read again.

Yes, we walked past the Bucintoro several times a week ago. Unfortunately the bridge in the picture (and all the others along the Riva) are now disfigured by great scaffolding ramps up and down in the name of 'accessibility'. I know we should be sympathetic to such ideals, but it doesn't do much for the aesthetics.

johnb
20-12-10, 10:45
I hasten to add that when I stayed at the Bucintoro is was a humble and fairly basic pensione (hence fairly cheap considering its position and views).

I see from googling that its interior has had a grand make-over and the rooms are much, much more up-market. Pity really.