Proms 2011 - advance info on concerts [Archive]

bluestateprommer

04-01-11, 00:32

Given that people on this forum have pretty much sussed out the First Night and Prom 3 for the 2011 Proms, it might be a source of amusement to see what is scheduled on the first Monday and Tuesday evenings of the 2011 Proms. To give credit where credit is due, Andrew Clements in The Guardian put out the word first here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2011/jan/03/best-classical-music-2011

From the Orchestre Philharmonique de Radio France's site:

(a) The presumed program for Prom 5, Monday, July 18, 2011:

http://sites.radiofrance.fr/chaines/orchestres/philharmonique/concerts/fiche.php?saison_id=310070350

Beethoven: Triple Concerto
Pascal Dusapin: Concerto for Orchestra
Olivier Messiaen : Les Offrandes oubliées

Martha Argerich, piano
Gautier Capuçon, cello
Renaud Capuçon, violon

Orchestre Philharmonique de Radio France
Myung-Whun Chung, conductor

(b) The equally presumed program for Prom 6, Tuesday, July 19, 2011:

http://sites.radiofrance.fr/chaines/orchestres/philharmonique/concerts/fiche.php?saison_id=310070351

von Weber : Overture to Oberon
Brahms : Double Concerto
Stravinsky : Le Sacre du printemps

Renaud Capuçon, violon
Gautier Capuçon, cello

Orchestre Philharmonique de Radio France
Myung-Whun Chung, conductor

Of course, the presumption is that Argerich doesn't suddenly bail on Prom 4, but I would think that the OPRF, RW the Proms staff have back-up plans at the ready just in case.

maestro267

04-01-11, 13:55

What's been sussed out about the First Night?

Brassbandmaestro

04-01-11, 14:08

I well and truly hope that Martha Argerich doesn't cancel at the last minute!

Eine Alpensinfonie

04-01-11, 14:17

Just how is it that the Australians and the Americans know more about the 2011 Proms than we do? :erm:

Martin

04-01-11, 14:35

Perhaps it's on a 'need to know' basis, Eine. Those who need to know are told last. :biggrin:

David Underdown

04-01-11, 15:24

Overseas performers usually seem to be less bothered about preserving an embargo on their participation in the Proms (RW has less influence over them), so judicious searching can find a fair proprtion of the programme well in advance.

Eine Alpensinfonie

04-01-11, 15:28

I didn't realise the Proms were covered by the Official Secrets Act. :doh:

ahinton

04-01-11, 17:08

I didn't realise the Proms were covered by the Official Secrets Act. :doh:
Nowadays, they're probably also subject to the Freedom of Information Act...

maestro267

04-01-11, 17:21

Does this mean we can simply browse the concert diaries on foreign orchestra websites and piece together the 2011 Proms season that way? :whistle:

David Underdown

04-01-11, 17:41

To an extent yes, obviously there will be big holes where the BBC orchestras are doing concerts. Agents' websites are also quite useful...

french frank

04-01-11, 17:55

Nowadays, they're probably also subject to the Freedom of Information Act...Or, more accurately, covered by the BBC's special derogation which gives exemption for 'journalism, art and literature'. You are allowed to ask but they don't have to answer ...

Time to set up a Proms board, I think, and move the relevant threads there?

Bryn

04-01-11, 18:11

Or, more accurately, covered by the BBC's special derogation which gives exemption for 'journalism, art and literature'. You are allowed to ask but they don't have to answer ...

Time to set up a Proms board, I think, and move the relevant threads there?

Do it! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nagC41Pe4c4);)

french frank

04-01-11, 18:56

Do it! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nagC41Pe4c4);)I'm trying to :steam: . Not sure how to get the link on the homepage :sadface:

Done:smiley:

Threni

05-01-11, 09:42

Stravinsky : Le Sacre du printemps

Excellent! Definately will not be there the first week, still at school.

However, I feel a school trip being planned :D

Brassbandmaestro

05-01-11, 17:57

That will always be in thye Proms, Le Sacre. This music is so overplayed these days. I hope it doesnt loose any of it's magic

Threni

05-01-11, 19:29

Not heard it live since June, having withdrawls haha

Sure i'll make up for it, twice on the same night in Birmingham and also at Covent Garden later in the year.

Ravensbourne

06-01-11, 17:26

What's been sussed out about the First Night?

"I think most of us are acting on the assumption that the First Night is Mahler 2 ..."

NickWraight

07-01-11, 10:39

There was a rumour that the Mahler 2 would be with Abbado but the work is not being played at the Lucerne Festival this year...

Talking of Lucerne I see that the Berlin and Vienna PO are performing along with the Israal PO, Chicago SO, Concergebouw and the Berlin and Dresden Staatskappellen so I would imagine some of those bands will be at the Proms and/or Edinburgh.

Suffolkcoastal

07-01-11, 14:11

Talking of Lucerne I see that the Berlin and Vienna PO are performing along with the Israal PO, Chicago SO, Concergebouw and the Berlin and Dresden Staatskappellen so I would imagine some of those bands will be at the Proms and/or Edinburgh.

With probably most of them playing Mahler or well worn repetoire :sadface: I just wish these orchestras when they tour would do something just a little out of the ordinary and surprising, now that I would pay money to hear!

EnemyoftheStoat

07-01-11, 15:59

Hear, hear, Nick!

Brassbandmaestro

08-01-11, 15:11

Perhaps its the case of getting bums onseats?

EnemyoftheStoat

10-01-11, 10:43

Perhaps its the case of getting bums onseats?

Well maybe, but that argument is holed below the waterline, so to speak, by such examples as last year's Bartok/Mozart/Haydn Prom, which saw a near full house on a Sunday night for a programme containing B's Cantata Profana - possibly the biggest audience this piece will ever get. It's possibly more a case of the various festivals requiring nothing too scary and the Proms having to line up with that.

NickWraight

12-01-11, 15:12

The CBSO Orchestra and Chorus are performing Prokoviev's Cantata Alexander Nevsky, sorry no date.

Brassbandmaestro

18-01-11, 20:07

The CBSO Orchestra and Chorus are performing Prokoviev's Cantata Alexander Nevsky, sorry no date.

Really? Now that be worth seeing!!

DracoM

18-01-11, 20:37

Well, in the arena up close, no matter how many times you've heard it, the sheer physical energy and excitement of Le Sacre is still infectious IMO.

HighlandDougie

22-01-11, 17:51

Having just decided that attendance at the 2011 Lucerne Summer Festival will require remortgaging a house, I see that Bernard Haitink and the COE are in the programme performing a Brahms symphony cycle in conjunction with the BBC Proms so I assume that will feature in the RAH at about 20% of the Lucerne price.

bluestateprommer

23-01-11, 06:47

I see that Bernard Haitink and the COE are in the programme performing a Brahms symphony cycle in conjunction with the BBC Proms....

Following on HD's post, from the Lucerne Festival program pdf:

http://www.lucernefestival.ch/documents/LF_Jahresleporello_Ansicht_deutsch.pdf

The two programs with "Uncle Bernie" leading the COE are:

8/23/2011, Lucerne (Hanno Müller-Brachman, soloist):
Brahms: Academic Festival Overture
Schubert (orchestrated by Brahms):
(a) "Memnon"
(b) "Geheimes"
(c) "An Schwager Kronos"
Brahms: Symphony No. 3

8/25/2011, Lucerne:
All-Brahms:
(1) Tragic Overture
(2) Variations on the St. Anthony Chorale ("Variations on a Theme by Haydn")
(3) Symphony No. 4

My guess is that they'll be at the Proms the week after that.

It was interesting to note the presence of the Philadelphia Orchestra and the Chicago Symphony Orchestra on the Lucerne Festival schedule. I hope that both ensembles have been scheduled for The Proms, particularly Philadelphia, given all its financial troubles of late. They need the morale boost, which the Lucerne Festival date would certainly provide, as would The Proms. Also, since the Fabulous Philadelphians pulled out of their planned 2009 European tour, I would think that they'd want to make up for that loss big-time.

Threni

27-01-11, 20:27

Well, in the arena up close, no matter how many times you've heard it, the sheer physical energy and excitement of Le Sacre is still infectious IMO.

agreed haha! If it weren't for that piece i wouldn't be here now. I wouldnt be teaching either or have done music at uni!

NickWraight

01-02-11, 13:11

Osborn

10-02-11, 22:11

It's well past time that we heard the fabulous Clevelanders. I believe they're often in Europe during the summer. Is there a problem?

Curalach

10-02-11, 23:22

It's well past time that we heard the fabulous Clevelanders. I believe they're often in Europe during the summer. Is there a problem?

They were in Edinburgh last summer and were indeed fabulous.

maestro267

18-02-11, 19:40

It is probably old news to you, but today I found out from the Proms website that:

Season details will be announced at noon on Thursday 14 April.

Let the countdown begin! :biggrin:

Osborn

18-02-11, 20:46

Curalach: I've never had an opportunity to hear them live and really, really would!

Hilaryjane

19-02-11, 15:41

It is probably old news to you, but today I found out from the Proms website that:

Let the countdown begin! :biggrin:

According to the website, booking is open from 9.00 am on Saturday 7th May.

Petrushka

19-02-11, 18:38

According to the website, booking is open from 9.00 am on Saturday 7th May.

Well, at least I won't have to take the morning off work to book my chosen Proms as I had to last year.

BetweenTheStaves

23-02-11, 22:20

Another rumour recently heard is that the 1st weekend, possibly bleeding into the start of the next week, also contains the Glagolitic Mass (1st night one would assume) and The Dream of Gerontius (Rattle; no confirmation of band but possibly OAE or CBSO, although the same conductor has perfomed it with the VPO but they usually appear late on in the season).

I think the consensus is that it is Mahler 2 for the First Night and The Gothic for Prom 3..which left us speculating as to Prom 2 and either of those two works would fit nicely.

bluestateprommer

24-02-11, 00:30

From trawling the Universal Edition website, some tantalizing speculative nuggets of scheduled performances this summer in London:

August 7, 2011
Mahler: Das Klagende Lied
BBC SO; BBC Singers; Edward Gardner, conductor

September 6, 2011:
Wolfgang Rihm: Gesungene Zeit, Lichtes Spiel
Anne-Sophie Mutter, violin; Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra; Manfred Honeck, conductor

This article from the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review does mention a European tour by the PSO, with an excerpt that invites reading between the lines:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/ae/music/s_719068.html

"The tour will include performances in the United Kingdom but those details will be announced at a later date. The schedules for some summer festivals, such as the BBC Proms in London, have yet to be released."

If this is true that the PSO may go to The Proms this summer, this is excellent news, not just for Pittsburgh, but also that at least one American orchestra will be at the Proms. I speculated in an earlier post that maybe the Chicago Symphony and Philadelphia Orchestras might possibly go to The Proms, since they are scheduled for Lucerne. (However, this may depend on upcoming contract negotiations in Philadelphia, and given the recent Detroit Symphony debacle, one wonders what will happen with the Fabulous Philadelphians.)

From the earlier post about the Glagolithic Mass and The Dream of Gerontius being on the first weekend, I'm starting to wonder if maybe some of us are barking up the wrong tree about Mahler 2 being the First Night. To think about it, a Mahler symphony, the one requiring the most people, started the 2010 season, and after all, why repeat the formula? Why not vary it the next time? Plus, if the Glagolithic Mass is to be on the First Night, that means JB and the BBC SO, which would make perfect sense, if only on "nationalistic" grounds. The first part of the First Night could maybe return more to the "potpourri" or "sampler" of themes, with perhaps a Liszt tone poem and one or two other season-long themes to cover.

french frank

24-02-11, 10:17

Impressive bit of detective work, bsp. On this evidence I think the odds on the Pittsburghers on 6 Sept would be quite short, and even shorter on them just being at the Proms on or around that date :smiley:.

EnemyoftheStoat

24-02-11, 12:34

From trawling the Universal Edition website, some tantalizing speculative nuggets of scheduled performances this summer in London:

August 7, 2011
Mahler: Das Klagende Lied
BBC SO; BBC Singers; Edward Gardner, conductor

Surely that can only tell half the story; apart from the soloists, even the Singers at double strength (2x24) would be underpowered for the choral writing there?

Barbirollians

01-03-11, 11:38

So long as if we have the Janacek we don't get the Dvorak Cello Concerto with Paul Watkins in the first half I won't mind . His performance of the Elgar a couple of years back was the least inspiring I have ever heard.

bluestateprommer

16-03-11, 19:48

I found this little tidbit from trawling the web of late, regarding the Netherlands Radio Philharmonic (RFO) and their current chief conductor, Jaap van Zweden:

http://old.radio4.nl/data/media/db_download/262_03aaf2.pdf

"In het seizoen 2010-2011 zal hij zijn debuut maken op de BBC Proms."

I inquired around a little further, and I'm told that the RFO will perform Bruckner 8 at The Proms, marking first appearances there for both the RFO and van Zweden.

Given the threats to the orchestra's existence from the new Dutch coalition government with the earlier threatened elimination of funding for the Netherlands Music Centre, it's a nice gesture on the part of Roger Wright and the Proms management to invite the orchestra to the RAH. One wonders if the invitation had been in the works all along, or if they made a slot for them after the bombshell of the initial Dutch culture budget exploded last fall. The RFO had appeared in Birmingham at Symphony Hall not that long back, AFAICR.

Chris Newman

23-03-11, 01:38

A little birdie tells me that Wednesday August 10th is the Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra with Kyrill Karabits but the programme is as yet under wraps.

Curalach

24-03-11, 15:48

The Edinburgh Festival programme has been announced which sometimes gives a clue about possible visitors to the Proms.
Edinburgh dates are:
16/17 August Montreal Symphony/ Nagano
24 August Seoul Philharmonic/ Chung
25 August Freiburg Baroque Orchestra/ Jacobs
29 August Tonhalle Orchestra/ Zinman
30/31 August Philadelphia Orchestra/ Dutoit
2/3 September Bamberg Symphony/ Nott

NickWraight

05-04-11, 13:42

The Glyndebourne Prom is Rinaldo on 24/8 - courtesy of one singer's website.

Myung wha Chung is conducting at the Proms but with another band, forgotten which but not the Seoul Phil.

bluestateprommer

05-04-11, 15:39

Myung wha [sic] Chung is conducting at the Proms but with another band, forgotten which but not the Seoul Phil.

For NW, at the risk of tooting one's own horn, I refer you back to the first post in this thread regarding Myung-Whun Chung :winkeye: .

Speaking of singer's websites, Nicola Corbishey indicates on her site a performance of Felix Mendelssohn's Elijah at The Proms on August 28, featuring the Gabrieli Consort (and presumably others).

http://www.nicolacorbishley.com/performance-diary.html

Chris Newman

05-04-11, 18:57

The LA Phil (not due to play a Prom as far as I can make out) website lets slip that Lionel Bringuier is conducting the BBCSO at the Proms. Any bets that within the next four years he gets a BBC Orchestra to call his own?

Threni

05-04-11, 19:12

Well ive just booked my Scottish hols so wont be at the proms this year :(

watch/listen on ipad though :)

bluestateprommer

05-04-11, 21:21

Just dug up basic information on 2 more concerts at this summer's Proms, from Heather Cairncross' website:

http://www.heathercairncross.com/concerts/2011-diary/

August 19, Steve Reich: Music for 18 Musicians (fitting, since 2011 is Steve Reich's 75th birthday year)

September 9 (the penultimate night), Carl Maria von Weber: Der Freischutz, with the Monteverdi Choir and the Orchestre Revolutionaire et Romantique, and conductor John Eliot Gardiner

Flosshilde

06-04-11, 01:31

Just dug up basic information on 2 more concerts at this summer's Proms, from Heather Cairncross' website:

September 9 (the penultimate night), Carl Maria von Weber: Der Freischutz, with the Monteverdi Choir and the Orchestre Revolutionaire et Romantique, and conductor John Eliot Gardiner

Ooooh, that sounds good - I wonder if I can arrange one of my visits south to coincide?

bluestateprommer

06-04-11, 18:34

Just found from this page at ECM's website one contribution by the BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra to this summer's Proms, with husband and wife as guest soloists:

http://www.ecmrecords.com/Tours/index_date.php?year=2011&month=08

August 8, 2011:

Thomas Larcher: Concerto for Violin, Violoncello and Orchestra

Viktoria Mullova, violin
Matthew Barley, cello
BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra
Ilan Volkov, conductor

In addition, regarding the Steve Reich Music for 18 Musicians, Synergy's webpage lists a different date of August 10:

http://www.synergyvocals.com/home/performances

But clearly there will be a performance of that work, on either August 10 or August 19, with Synergy and the Ensemble Modern.

Plus, small follow-up to random speculation about American orchestras going to The Proms this year: from looking at the Chicago Symphony's website, the CSO does not list The Proms on their summer European tour. So they can be scratched off the list. Still no idea about The Philadelphia Orchestra, but contract negotiations are going on right now, with worries that it might turn into another Detroit Symphony-type meltdown.

french frank

06-04-11, 18:45

In addition, regarding the Steve Reich Music for 18 Musicians, Synergy's webpage lists a different date of August 10:

http://www.synergyvocals.com/home/performances

But clearly there will be a performance of that work, on either August 10 or August 19, with Synergy and the Ensemble Modern.Chris N reported (http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?848-Proms-2011-advance-info-on-concerts&p=40791#post40791) that Aug 10 would be the Bournemouth SO/Karabits. I've been entering the suggestions, where there were dates, in the calendar so we'll see what was right and wrong in 8 days time.

Chris Newman

06-04-11, 23:10

I would guess that Steve Reich would qualify for a late-evening concert these days. William Glock's "mixtures" to put bums on seats don't count these days. Remember when Boult shared progammes with Fred Prauznitz? Boult playing Elgar or RVW in the first half. Prauznitz giving us something like George Crumb or Charles Ives and to finish Strauss's "Emperor Walz" in the hope people stayed :winkeye:

bluestateprommer

07-04-11, 16:55

Just found from Sally Beamish's own page word about her new string quartet, scheduled for its world premiere on Monday, July 25 at 1 PM (at the risk of stating the obvious, by inference at Cadogan Hall):

http://www.sallybeamish.com/store.php?pg1-cid59.html

The Elias Quartet will be featured, in what is SB's String Quartet No. 3, which they'll reprise at the Oxford Chamber Music Society later in the year:

http://www.oxfordchambermusic.org/Details201112.pdf

joseph green

08-04-11, 12:22

According to the American Friends of the IPO website, the orchestra appears on 1 September: No programme as yet

Europe Festival: August - September 2011Conducted by Zubin Mehta

August 28, 2011 – September 24, 2011

August 28 Stresa, Italy

August 30 Grafeneg, Australia

September 1 London, UK

September 3 Gstaad, Switzerland

September 6,7 Lucerne, Switzerland

September 8 Basel, Switzerland

September 10 Dresden, Germany

September 11 Bohn, Germany

September 12, Cologne, Germany

September 13 Turin, Italy

September 14 Milan, Italy

September 15 Rotterdam, Holland

September 17 Luxembourg

September 19, 20 Bucharest, Romania

September 21, 22 Madrid, Spain

September 24 Zagreb, Croatia

bluestateprommer

11-04-11, 19:18

"The Edinburgh Festival programme has been announced which sometimes gives a clue about possible visitors to the Proms. Edinburgh dates are...

29 August Tonhalle Orchestra/ Zinman"

From doing a little digging, I can confirm that the Tonhalle-Orchester Zurich and conductor David Zinman are indeed scheduled for The Proms this summer. The date looks to be Saturday, August 27, 2011. The program looks to be:

Mozart: Piano Concerto No. 27, K. 595 (Maria Joao Pires, piano)
Beethoven: Symphony No. 3

The source of this information is a tour-package page:

http://www.kuoni.ch/de/destinationen/europa/grossbritannien/england/london/tours/pages/tournee-mit-dem-tonhalle-orchester-cultimo-no-6.aspx

RobertLeDiable

11-04-11, 19:28

William Glock's "mixtures" to put bums on seats don't count these days. Remember when Boult shared progammes with Fred Prauznitz? Boult playing Elgar or RVW in the first half. Prauznitz giving us something like George Crumb or Charles Ives and to finish Strauss's "Emperor Walz" in the hope people stayed

Actually I don't think that's fair to Glock. When he started he was stuck with Sargent as Chief Conductor of the BBC SO and the Proms. Sargent wouldn't conduct most 'modern' music, so Glock would ask someone like Del Mar or Prausnitz to come in and do something new or at least off the beaten track while Sargent did his usual thing in the rest of the concert. It made for some uncomfortable juxtapositions, and because Proms programmes were generally longer than now, the programme could be divided almost as if it was two concerts. Later, after Sargent's death, when Glock was able to get his own man (Boulez) in as BBC SO conductor, he was able to start programming much more coherently. I don't think it was about bums on seats, it was about trying to change a profoundly conservative culture.

Though I don't see anything wrong with bums on seats.

Chris Newman

11-04-11, 23:52

Fair comment, RobertLe Diable, though I come from the post-Sargent era. (Colin Davis began my full-time Promming time). I still think that Glock had to be fairly pragmatic (as Harold Wilson would have put it) regarding getting people to come to concerts. I only met him (Glock) once, on the day that Russia invaded Czechoslovakia and he was amazingly diplomatic in his comments as he knew that Wilson wanted the USSRSSO Proms and Edinburgh Festival concerts and the Beatles tour of Russia cancelled. I agree that concerts were longer (better value?) in those days and that Boulez (and, of course, Colin Davis) brought much more exciting programmes.

bluestateprommer

12-04-11, 15:38

One more band to add to the party, namely the Budapest Festival Orchestra, conductor Ivan Fischer, and pianist Dejan Lazić, scheduled for September 2, 2011 at The Proms. The program includes Liszt's Totentanz, but I don't know what else will be included. This is from Channel Classics' page:

http://www.channelclassics.com/productmedia/tour/view/id/419

teamsaint

13-04-11, 19:05

the proms 2011 book seemed to be on sale in a shop I visited today..should it have been?

If its release tomorrow, should surely have been embargoed?

Pity i didn't buy it really!!

bluestateprommer

13-04-11, 19:38

Dejan Lazić, it turns out, has one more appearance at The Proms this summer, performing his own arrangement of the Brahms Violin Concerto as a piano concerto, with the BBC Philharmonic and Vassily Sinaisky, on August 11, 2011, per this link from Channel Classics' site (the gaffe on the name of the hall aside):

http://www.channelclassics.com/productmedia/tour/view/id/417

french frank

13-04-11, 21:36

You deserve a medal, bsp.

Hope someone(s) will help enter up the schedule on our calendar when (i.e. tomorrow) all is revealed.

bluestateprommer

10-06-11, 19:54

Well, in anticipation of the Proms in 2012, from the Columbia Artists Management page, the agency for JoAnn Falletta, there's this tidbit on their posting about her appointment to the Ulster Orchestra (emphasis mine):

"The Ulster Orchestra made its tenth BBC London Promenade and 25th anniversary appearance at Royal Albert Hall in September. They eagerly anticipate their return with Principal Conductor, JoAnn Falletta, in August 2012."

For FF, thanks for the kind word. Perhaps if I make it over there in one piece this summer, I'll settle for a drink rather than a medal :winkeye: .

Ravensbourne

14-06-11, 23:49

3rd Viennese School

23-06-11, 13:34

Which newish composed work will get messageboarders backs up this year?

In the past we've had Brett Dean, Rebbecca Saunders Traces, Xenikis, Hayden

Watch this space!

3VS

bluestateprommer

27-07-11, 19:50

Via Opera Chic's website, Antonio Pappano revealed a bit of a surprise for the 2012 Proms:

http://operachic.typepad.com/opera_chic/2011/07/tonys-william-pappano-does-tell-in-london.html#comments

The relevant text, of course, is:

"Nel 2012 a Londra dirigerò Troyens di Berlioz al Covent Garden e al Proms"

The literal Google Translation is:

"In 2012 direct Troyens by Berlioz in London at Covent Garden and the Proms"

From the ROH's page:

http://www.roh.org.uk/season/1112/opera.aspx

"Les Troyens
25 | 28 June
1 mat | 5 | 8 mat | 11 July

Berlioz's epic version of the Trojan war and its aftermath in a new production by David McVicar, conducted by Antonio Pappano, Music Director of the Royal Opera. Not seen at the Royal Opera House since 1972, this five-act operatic tour de force is cast to the hilt with such international names as Jonas Kaufmann, Eva-Maria Westbroek and Anna Caterina Antonacci."
Given that the First Night for the 2012 Proms is presumably Friday, July 13, 2012, would it be too much of a stretch that, if this does come to pass, Les Troyens would be Prom 2 for next summer? I realize it is borderline absurd to discuss the 2012 Proms when we're now just into the 2011 Proms, but what the heck :doh: .

french frank

27-07-11, 20:04

Given that the First Night for the 2012 Proms is presumably Friday, July 13, 2012, would it be too much of a stretch that, if this does come to pass, Les Troyens would be Prom 2 for next summer? I realize it is borderline absurd to discuss the 2012 Proms when we're now just into the 2011 Proms, but what the heck :doh: .:biggrin:

David Underdown

27-07-11, 21:15

Have heard whispers of Walton Belshazzar's Feast/Elgar Musicmakers and Berlioz Grand Messe des morts all BBC NOW/Fischer

BudgieJane

28-07-11, 11:35

The relevant text, of course, is:

"Nel 2012 a Londra dirigerò Troyens di Berlioz al Covent Garden e al Proms"
The literal Google Translation is:

"In 2012 direct Troyens by Berlioz in London at Covent Garden and the Proms"

Google Translate gets it wrong sometimes (or should that be often). I think it should say

"In 2012 he will conduct 'The Trojans' by Berlioz in London at Covent Garden and the Proms"