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    I need to know more about country music. I want to separate out the wheat from the sheep and the chaff from the goats.

    Some time ago, we attempted a list of the best ever world music albums. A brave idea which led to some informative discussion.

    So what do you think? I thought perhaps we could do "50 great country music tracks across all of the decades". I've already got a few dubious selections at the ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralthinking1 View Post
    "50 great country music tracks...".
    Sounds like a contradiction in terms, but good luck. Having said that, I've always quite liked Billie Gentry's 'Ode to Billy Joe', Marty Robbins's 'El Paso' and Glen Campbell's 'Wichita Lineman'. I must admit I prefer artists who incorporate(d) elements of C&W into songs other formats - such as The Eagles and The Everly Brothers. Do you not find a lot of C&W songs unbearably mawkish ('Big John', 'Ruby, Don't Take Your Love To Town' and of course D.I.V.O.R.C.E)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ofcachap View Post
    Sounds like a contradiction in terms, but good luck. Having said that, I've always quite liked Billie Gentry's 'Ode to Billy Joe', Marty Robbins's 'El Paso' and Glen Campbell's 'Wichita Lineman'. I must admit I prefer artists who incorporate(d) elements of C&W into songs other formats - such as The Eagles and The Everly Brothers. Do you not find a lot of C&W songs unbearably mawkish ('Big John', 'Ruby, Don't Take Your Love To Town' and of course D.I.V.O.R.C.E)?
    I love 'Big John '
    Yours sincerely
    Wee John

    P.S. Wait till PS gets a sniff of this - doubt he'll stick at 50.
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    >>>>50 great country music tracks...".
    Sounds like a contradiction in terms, but good luck<<<


    Ofca, I think people may just be simply scared of country music's approach to home truths


    And along with Dr Jonathan Miller, I reckon Tammy Wynette's separation song is an all-time great piece !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ofcachap View Post
    Sounds like a contradiction in terms, but good luck. Having said that, I've always quite liked Billie Gentry's 'Ode to Billy Joe', Marty Robbins's 'El Paso' and Glen Campbell's 'Wichita Lineman'. I must admit I prefer artists who incorporate(d) elements of C&W into songs other formats - such as The Eagles and The Everly Brothers. Do you not find a lot of C&W songs unbearably mawkish ('Big John', 'Ruby, Don't Take Your Love To Town' and of course D.I.V.O.R.C.E)?
    I always felt there was at least a PhD for the grabbing in deconstructing Bobbie Gentry's Ode to Billie Joe

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZt5Q-u4crc

    I wonder, was Ofca thinking perhaps of Billy Dainty?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrghBJilwUM


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    Jolene (not in the shower with Sid/Kenton)
    has to be on your list methinks !

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrGongGong View Post
    Jolene (not in the shower with Sid/Kenton)
    has to be on your list methinks !

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    Anyone seeking an entree into country should probably start with Hank Williams: he was a seriously great songwriter. It takes a huge talent to write songs as simple but heartfelt as his.

    You might then like to proceed to Johnny/June Carter Cash, George Jones and/or Tammy Wynette. All made very credible albums in the sixties.

    Kris Kristofferson was Cash's chief disciple; he couldn't sing, but he had some serious writing chops.

    But perhaps a more suitable next stop would be the 'new country' of Gram Parsons and Emmylou Harris, which was very much frowned on by the Opry Establishment in the 70s, as these 'hippies' were supposed to lack the salt of the earth mentality. They almost certainly did, but that was probably a good thing, imo. Check out Gram Parsons' Grievous Angel album (on which E.H. prominently guests) and if you like the opening track, you'll probably like new country.

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    Looking forward to this Lt. I'm a bit out of date though. I always liked the directness of C&W, the yarns, the heartbreak, the anger and the love, not to mention the skill of the writing and the playing. One man's wheat is another man's goat, as seen already!, but I'll go along with Paul and John, and I'll throw my hat in the ring with one of my own - The City of New Orleans - I'm partial to Judy Collins' version.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDGSb5NxtJY

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrGongGong View Post
    Jolene (not in the shower with Sid/Kenton)
    has to be on your list methinks !
    Mention of Kenton gives a thought of what might have been had Stan Kenton followed up his 'does Wagner' with 'does Country' - 'Ghost Riders (of the Valkyries) in the Sky' with bongos maybe, or a nice Big Band version of 'Ring of Fire' ! However, a cautionary tale of such fusion. Late in his life after serious surgery a concerned looking Buddy Rich was asked by a nurse if something was troubling him. Rich replied 'Country Music'.

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