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    Default BaL 11.06.11 - Mahler: Des Knaben Wunderhorn

    9.30 a.m. Richard Wigmore with a personal recommendation from the available recordings of Mahler's Des Knaben Wunderhorn

    Available Versions:

    Sarah Connolly & Dietrich Henschel, Orchestre des Champs-Élysées, Philippe Herreweghe
    Thomas Hampson, Wiener Virtuosen
    Magdalena Kožená, Christian Gerhaher,Cleveland Orchestra, Pierre Boulez
    Susan Graham, Thomas Hampson, San Francisco Symphony, Michael Tilson Thomas
    Elisabeth Schwarzkopf, Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau, London Symphony Orchestra, George Szell
    Lorna Sydney, Alfred Poell, Wiener Staatsopernorchester, Felix Prohaska
    Christiane Oelze, Michael Volle, Gürzenich-Orchester Köln, Markus Stenz
    Barbara Bonney, Matthias Goerne, Sara Fulgoni, Gösta Winbergh,
    Concertgebouw Orchestra, Riccardo Chailly
    Anne Sofie von Otter, Thomas Quasthoff, Berlin Philharmonic, Claudio Abbado
    Thomas Hampson, Lucia Popp & Walton Groenroos, Wiener Philharmoniker, Leonard Bernstein (DVD)
    Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau, Wolfgang Sawallisch
    Jard van Nes, John Bröcheler, Het Gelders Orkest, Arnhem Philharmonic Orchestra, Roberto Benzi
    Evelyn Lear, Thomas Stewart, Richard Kraus, Anton Kersjes, Ralf Weikert



    Diana Damrau, Iván Paley, Stephan Matthias Lademann (piano)
    Stephan Genz, Roger Vignoles (piano)
    Christianne Stotijn, Julius Drake (piano)
    Margaret Price, Thomas Dewey (piano)
    Thomas Hampson, Geoffrey Parsons (piano)
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    Alpensinfonie - many thanks as always for the listing.

    I have the Schwarzkopf/Fischer-Dieskau/Szell, and also Popp/Weikl/Tennstedt, the latter in the EMI Mahler Lieder box.

    very much looking forward to hearing this - esp for the Goerne and Quasthoff, and also to hear the versions with piano, which I don't think I have...

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    Yes, thanks for the list.
    Among others that are available from amazon marketplace sellers (though probably not "officially" in the catalogue), I've a very soft spot for Ann Murray, Thomas Allen and Charles Mackerras on Virgin Classics.

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    Eine Alpensinfonie, you've listed a version by Lorna Sydney and Leopold Ludwig, with the Vienna State Opera O. conducted by Felix Prohaska. I have what I assume is this version on the original 2 LP set, in mono on the Nixa label. Code VLP 412-1 and 412-2, undated but from somewhere in the early fifties, judging by the austere sleeve design. However, the baritone is Alfred Poell and there is no mention of Leopold Ludwig. Is there some confusion here, or are there two different versions by Prohaska? It would be rather odd to have two conductors in the same work, assuming Ludwig was the conductor (as I have always taken to be his role) rather than singer? Or maybe he was a singer as well?

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    A shame that two of my favourites are "out of pressing" (is that the equivalent of out of print?):

    Janet Baker, Geraint Evans, LPO, Wyn Morris.
    Maureen Forrester, Thomas Stewart, VSOO, Felix Prohaska.*

    The first recording is especially welcome for Dame Janet's youthful voice and Roland Hermann's supple Songs of a Wayfaring Lad. Poor Sir Geraint as so often never sounds as sweet with a microphone as he did in the flesh. It can be found second hand.

    The Prohaska is divine. No problems with Stewart who often sang (and recorded the songs) with his wife, Evelyn Lear. Maureen Forrester can often be mistaken for Janet Baker.

    *I stand corrected: It was Heinz Rehfuss NOT Thomas Stewart and the orchestra was the Vienna Festival Orchestra (a fictitious name in those days).
    Last edited by Chris Newman; 03-06-11 at 16:20. Reason: Booboos with the Prohaska recording...memory lapse

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    Quote Originally Posted by umslopogaas View Post
    Eine Alpensinfonie, you've listed a version by Lorna Sydney and Leopold Ludwig, with the Vienna State Opera O. conducted by Felix Prohaska. I have what I assume is this version on the original 2 LP set, in mono on the Nixa label. Code VLP 412-1 and 412-2, undated but from somewhere in the early fifties, judging by the austere sleeve design. However, the baritone is Alfred Poell and there is no mention of Leopold Ludwig.
    Many thanks for clearing this one up, umslopogaas. I was confused by this and made my "best guess" (which was almost correct ). But now I've amended the list.

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    Thanks Eine Alpensinfonie. In the interim I've done a bit of googling on Prohaska, whom I've otherwise never come across, and it gets more and more complicated. He seems to have recorded Des Knaben Wunderhorn three times:

    Lorna Sydney/Alfred Poell, VSOO (2 lp set on Nixa, mono)
    Maureen Forrester/Heinz Rehfuss, Vienna Festival O (mono lp)
    Maureen Forrester/Thomas Stewart, VSOO

    The first two are listed on Google (I've got the first one) and the third by post 5 (Chris Newman) and yourself. Prohaska died somewhen in the 1980s, so he may well have been allowed to remake it in stereo (is that the case for the third recording?) but its odd that he made two mono versions.

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    Eine Alpensinfonie and umslopogaas,
    Grovel, grovel!! I must add my apologies for adding complications to the list. I wrote about the Maureen Forrester/Prohaska recording from memory rather than looking on my shelf upstairs.:doh:

    umslopogaas is absolutely correct it was Heinz Rehfuss not Thomas Stewart who sang the baritone songs. I remembered it was an American baritone (Rehfuss adopted US citizenship) and got the wrong one though thinking about it Stewart and Rehfuss sounded similar and had like repertoire. Also my memory failed to note the orchestra: the Vienna Festival Orchestra was one of the names Vanguard used for one of the better known Vienna orchestras. Does anyone know if it was really the VSOO or the Volksoper? I have corrected my earlier message.
    I'd better crawl back in my box.

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    Sounds like a really good BaL next week.I will have to listen to that on the 'LA' facility though, I as I will be out that day!!
    Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life(Berthold Auerbach)

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    Surprised by the absence of the recording from Leonard Bernstein and the Concertgebouw with Lucia Popp and Andreas Schmidt on DG. This is a winner of a disc if ever there was one!
    “Every piece of music is a rehearsal of one’s life,” - Sir Colin Davis

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