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Thread: Our Summer BAL: 3 Goldberg Variations (Merged threads)

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    Default Our Summer BAL: 3 Goldberg Variations (Merged threads)

    Following the first Chamber Prom, I would be interested in hearing the members’ opinions and preferences. We can talk about it in four categories:

    1.Historical: you may not recommend it as the DC to buy but the performance(s) worth listening to for various reasons.

    2.Recordings of currently (or almost currently) active performers. I think we can keep the question of availability as extra information.

    3.On the piano: as the preferred or ‘could be recommended’ performance but let’s leave out the ‘I can’t stand it’

    4.Arrangements and curiosities

    All or any.

    I am still holding on to Trevor Pinnock’s 1980 recording but if/when Mahan Esfahani releases his, I shall definitely buy it.

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    On LP:

    Tureck (HMV mono) Piano
    Weissenberg (French HMV) Piano
    Malcom (L'Oiseau Lyre) Harpsichord
    Walcha (HMV) Harpsichord
    Landowska (RCA mono) Harpsichord
    Kirkpatrick (Archiv) Harpsichord

    On CD:

    Arrau (RCA) Piano
    Rosen (Sony) Piano
    Gould (Sony,1981 recording) Piano
    Gould (Sony 1959 Salzburg Festival debut recording, mono) Piano

    If I had to chose one, I'd fight for two: Walcha on harpsichord, which is the performance from which I got to know the work, and Gould 1959 on the piano, because its Gould. On the Gould disc you get the rest of his recital too: Sweelink's Fantasia in D, Schoenberg's Suite Op. 25 and Mozart's Sonata K 330. I'm no pianist, but I reckon its pretty amazing to knock that lot out from memory, then launch into the Goldbergs as well.

    With respect to the piano versus harpsichord debate, I'm happy with either. I've very little time for the argument that Bach's (or anyone else's ) music should only be played on the instruments of their time. Interesting to hear, but not obligatory, in my view. Bach was, by accounts I've read, a virtuoso keyboard player and in demand to show off new instruments. Given the opportunity to try a new organ, would play one of his more showy Preludes and Fugues, to test the power and flexibility of the instrument. I bet if he could have got his hands on a modern piano, he'd have loved it.

    There's also the interesting thought that's just occurred to me, that the Goldbergs were written to "divert" (according to my Walcha sleevenotes) an insomniac count. Its not clear if they were meant to send him to sleep, or simply entertain him, but if someone was playing music to me to send me to sleep, I wouldnt want it on the harpsichord, its not a soothing sound.

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    Doesnt anyone have a view on Bach's 'Goldberg Variations'? Nothing? Not a squeak about one of the greatest and most divine pieces of music ever written? I only listed a few versions I own, simply because I do. Surely there are qualified musicians out there who might deign to comment on the music itself, not merely my random selection of ancient discs? This is thread about one of the most sublime works in the canon. Nothing ... ? Peter Katin, this would be a worthy item for a real musician, come in and speak. I'm worried, I'll have to go to bed now, but if I get up tomorrow and find no response, I'll be very worried ...

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    Available versions:

    Harpsichord
    Devine
    Halls
    Auger
    Bonizzoni
    Suzuki
    Ogg
    Zimmermann
    Beauséjour
    Payne
    Staier
    Hantai
    Pinnock
    Landowska
    Egarr
    Leonhardt
    Hantai
    Vinikour
    Dirksen (with organ)
    Pelleg
    Weiss
    Jarrett

    Piano
    Solé
    Vassilakis
    Friskin
    Cload
    Chung
    Schirmer
    Crossland
    Pi-hsien
    Pescia
    Propper
    Nikolayeva
    Vladir
    Marsoner
    Issakadze
    Schiff x 2
    Zahharenkova
    Van Bloss
    Tal & Groethuysen
    Lim
    Feltsman
    Gould (multiple versions)
    Hewitt
    Koroliov
    Perahia
    Bacchetti (x 2)
    Jando
    MacGregor
    Angelich
    Pelleg
    Korevaar
    Ohlsson
    Tureck
    Tanski
    Kann
    Janssen

    Clavichord
    Steen
    Gát

    Organ
    Rost
    Guillou
    Van Tricht
    Sonnentheil
    Barshai
    Lagacé
    Albrecht
    Lagacé
    Vigneron

    Other

    Schmeding
    Asperen
    Stirmer
    Goldberg Trio Bonn
    Leopold String Trio
    Amat String Trio
    Strauf & Harders (viola da gamba)
    Anzellotti (accordion)
    Patkovic (accordion)
    Finch (harp)
    Blassel (harp)
    Karlheinz Essl-Live Electronics & Orpheus Trio
    Swiss Chamber Soloists
    Sax Allemande (saxophones)
    Homecoming Woodwind Ensemble
    Stadfield
    Schornsheim
    NES Chamber Orchestra, Henry Grossman
    Dimitry Sitkovetsky, Gérard Caussé, Mischa Maisky (string trio)
    Gaede Trio
    Jacques Loussier Trio

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    I have Schiff's first (Decca) recording. On the rare occasions when I listen to it all through (roll on retirement!) I find it very satisfying, though it seems that Schiff's second recording may be even finer. I don't see myself collecting multiple versions, but then I don't do that generally.

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    I have that recording to. I also find itr rather satisfying to listen. I also have Canadian brass(that famous brass quintet), playing it as well. Can we add that one to the list?
    Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life(Berthold Auerbach)

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    Default J S Bach Goldberg Variations - Freddy Kampf (piano)

    I got this cd yesterday when I bought a copy of the BBC Music Magazine.

    I know very little about Bach, but have listened to this cd a number of times and am really enjoying it. Can anyone recommend any other versions of this amazing piece? The cd I have is played by pianist Freddy Kampf.

    Thanks!
    Tones sound, and roar and storm about me until I have set them down in notes - Ludwig van Beethoven

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    Apologies, I accidentally posted this thread twice. If the mods could delete the other thread, please? Thank you.
    Tones sound, and roar and storm about me until I have set them down in notes - Ludwig van Beethoven

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    I got this cd yesterday when I bought a copy of the BBC Music Magazine.

    I know very little about Bach, but have listened to this cd a number of times and am really enjoying it. Can anyone recommend any other versions of this amazing piece? The cd I have is played by pianist Freddy Kampf.

    Thanks!

    Three, I commented earlier on this CD.
    If you want to go for an excellent milestone recording, try Gould's 1955 version (on Sony).

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    It would be fascinating to explore different recordings of the Goldberg.

    The 1955 Gould version is very much a milestone, as Roehre has said. It is an 'essential listen' but do bear in mind that Gould has a very individual approach to Bach (love him or hate him).

    Out of curiosity I've just looked what is available on Spotify and was surprised by the large number of recordings available there (both on piano and harpsichord), a few of which are: Bob van Asperen, Andras Schiff, Rosalyn Tureck, Glenn Gould, Masaaki Suzuki, Charles Rosen, Andrei Gavrilov, Wanda Landowska, Tatjana Nikolayeva, Maggie Cole. (Though finding them all using Spotify's search function might be ... err ... tricky.)
    Last edited by johnb; 21-07-11 at 13:07.

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