Richard Barrett CONSTRUCTION

[John Skelton]

I was so disappointed I missed the first of twenty minutes of CONSTRUCTION.

It sounded a feast for the ear and consistently engaging in the manner described by SA.

A feast for the ear and the heart and the mind.

[handsomefortune]

CONSTRUCTION was a bit of a shock to any listeners staying up, expecting to listen to alyn shipton's 'jazz library'.

however, i thought the saturday night performance went very well with the recent brian ferneyhough stuff; the thread about jesus christ's 4.33; and the woman who sang about germs and wet suits + acoustic guitar....respectively

having adjusted to the change of schedule it went down well in this house, but clashed a bit with next doors tv. so, i might just catch it again on iplayer.

[Serial_Apologist]

the thread about jesus christ's 4.33;

Thinking outside the cage?

[Oddball]

CONSTRUCTION was a bit of a shock to any listeners staying up, expecting to listen to alyn shipton's 'jazz library'. .

Out of respect for those Jazzophiles, probably the majority, that didn't like this music, and not wishing to add insult to injury, perhaps French Frank would be kind enough to move this thread to Hear and Now Board.

However I am beginning to feel extremely positive about CONSTRUCTION, and must listen some more times before it disappears from iPlayer.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

it is ok here ... many jazzbos liked it ... and Mr Barrett is active on the free improv scene with Evan Parker even though it is a H&N show

[Simon]

did any one listen to this ......

I haven't yet done so.

i could not manage more than five minutes of the sounds presented ... mea culpa

But why say "mea culpa"? It may of course be your fault, or it may not. If the composer can't write music that true music-lovers like, it's hardly the fault of the listener.

If it was a lovely piece, full of entrancing melodies and rich, moving harmonies, than indeed it was culpa tua. But if it was rubbish, then it wasn't.

If I glooped together an unmusical set of pointless discords and you didn't like it, I wouldn't expect you to take the blame. I'd expect you to tell me that I had glooped together an unmusical set of pointless discords.

Of course, I could put a spin on it, and tell you that you "didn't understand" it - and if enough snobs, chatterers and fellow-travellers with no musical perception jumped on the bandwagon, you might even begin to doubt your own ears and brain, and to wonder if my "composition" did indeed have some kind of worth.

But it wouldn't alter the fact that it was in reality an unmusical set of pointless discords.

I'm looking forward to listening to the piece, then of course I can decide for myself. I do hope it's astoundingly beautiful. But given your comments, I feel that I may be disappointed.

[Serial_Apologist]

I haven't yet done so.



But why say "mea culpa"? It may of course be your fault, or it may not. If the composer can't write music that true music-lovers like, it's hardly the fault of the listener.

If it was a lovely piece, full of entrancing melodies and rich, moving harmonies, than indeed it was culpa tua. But if it was rubbish, then it wasn't.

If I glooped together an unmusical set of pointless discords and you didn't like it, I wouldn't expect you to take the blame. I'd expect you to tell me that I had glooped together an unmusical set of pointless discords.

Of course, I could put a spin on it, and tell you that you "didn't understand" it - and if enough snobs, chatterers and fellow-travellers with no musical perception jumped on the bandwagon, you might even begin to doubt your own ears and brain, and to wonder if my "composition" did indeed have some kind of worth.

But it wouldn't alter the fact that it was in reality an unmusical set of pointless discords.

I'm looking forward to listening to the piece, then of course I can decide for myself. I do hope it's astoundingly beautiful. But given your comments, I feel that I may be disappointed.

In fact you may already be feeling that this was a rather pointless message, given that you have not even heard the work in question, Simon

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

my mea culpa was intended to reflect the lateness of the hour, the tiredness of the flesh and the length of the piece ... and since i had clearly not listened to it did and do not feel able to comment upon it and therefore did not wish my retirement from the scene to be read as a comment on the piece .... a fate that often befalls jazbos with r3

[Simon]

In fact you may already be feeling that this was a rather pointless message, given that you have not even heard the work in question, Simon

I was simply expounding the principle, SA, based on Calum's comment. As you have recognised, I did make it clear that I was looking forward to hearing the piece so that I could judge for myself.

I'm a little more enthusiastic now, as I've noticed the comment that it is "a feast for the ear and the heart and the mind." Move over, Mendelssohn, then...

[Oddball]

Move over, Mendelssohn, then...

You never know Simon - you might have a Damascus moment.....