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    Quote Originally Posted by mikealdren View Post
    ...and Martin Milner too with the Hallé years ago.
    Yes! I heard MM play it with the Halle under James Loughran in Derby of all places in 1975 but I was still struggling with the piece in those days. I was also present at the Perlman/Rozhdestvensky Prom in 1981 by which time it was beginning to 'click'. I bought the Perlman/Barenboim LP in 1982 and have been in love with it ever since and now have several versions on my shelves (including both of Nige's) but Perlman does it for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amateur51 View Post
    If I could have only one recording, it would be the Albert Sammons/New Queen's Hall Orchestra/Sir Henry Wood performance - it was the first performance that I really got to know and I recall the frisson that went through the record-collecting world when EMI released it after A C Griffiths (I think) had worked his magic on it for the EMI retrospect series on LP


    This was my first version c1972, bought because I had little money as a student and it was far cheaper than the Menuhin/ Boult. But as I was delighted to discover, it's anything but a second-best! Oddly enough, never have acquired that Menuhin/ Boult even though I've picked up a few others since: Chung/ Solti, Zukerman/ Barenboim, Menuhin/ Elgar, Kennedy/ Handley.

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    Haendel/Rattle is superb and comes with a stupendous account of the Sibelius too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbirollians View Post
    Haendel/Rattle is superb and comes with a stupendous account of the Sibelius too.
    Was that recorded in Rattle's early days with CBSO?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
    Was that recorded in Rattle's early days with CBSO?
    Conducted by Simon Rattle with the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra . Track Listing Jean Sibelius Violin Concerto in B minor, Op.61. Recorded 7th September 1993, Royal Albert Hall, London. 1. I Allegro moderato (16.02) 2. II Adagio di molto (9.19) 2. III Allegro, ma non tanto (7.37) Edward Elgar Violin Concerto in B minor, Op.61. Recorded 22nd February 1984, Royal Festival Hall, London. 4. I- Allegro (17.03) 5. II-Andante (11.23) 6. III- Allegri molto (18.00) Total running time 79.40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrushka View Post
    It took me a long, long time to get into the Elgar VC ...
    I can remember exactly when I "got into... this work. As a teenager in the 1960s, I was collecting Elgar recordings at a time when EMI were doing sterling service in bringing out recordings of hitherto unrecorded works. Having acquired most of the better know works, the next step was to buy the Violin Concerto. But which version.
    The staff at Avgarde Gallery in Manchester (Dennis Baxter and John Mayall) allowed me to listen to the slow movement in both EMI Menuhin versions, but there seemed little to choose between them, so I opted for the safety of the then new version. Since then, I have acquired Sammons, Menuhin/Elgar, Chung, Kennedy/Handley, Zukermann, Bean and Little. If I tend to avoid the Kyung Wha Chung performance, it is because I'm not too impressed by Solti's orchestral direction on this occasion, even though I greatly admire much of his work.

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    Perlman gives a fine performance, but I generally avvoid his recordings, simply because the violinist always insists on close-miking his violin. We hear what he hears in the concert hall, rather than what the audience hears.

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    It is a rather unEnglish performance but in many ways I really like that - Perlman treats it as a great romantic concerto in the Brahms class and I imagine that is why it won prizes abroad . Forgot the Chung I am rather fond of that one too !

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    I was surprised to see how many versions I have collected over the years:

    Ida Haendel, London Philharmonic Orchestra, Sir Adrian Boult
    Hugh Bean, Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra, Sir Charles Groves
    Alfredo Campoli, London Philharmonic Orchestra, Sir Adrian Boult
    Jascha Heifetz, London Symphony Orchestra, Sir Malcolm Sargent
    Albert Sammons, New Queen's Hall Orchestra, Sir Henry Wood
    Nigel Kennedy, London Philharmonic Orchestra, Vernon Handley
    Yehudi Menuhin, London Symphony Orchestra, Sir Edward Elgar


    I first heard it live with Alfredo Campoli and the Brighton Philharmonic under Herbert Menges at the Dome in Brighton. Not long after I heard him again at Dorking Halls with Norman del Mar and the LPO and knew by then it was a magnificent work. I heard Menuhin once with Boult at a concert to raise funds for the EE Birthplace and sadly his intonation was very hit and miss by then. Ida Haendel played it with Groves at one of my first Proms. I heard Hugh Bean play the work twice. I did much love Nige at the Proms about three years ago. I think that Bean, Campoli and Haendel are my favourite recordings. I have heard great things of Ehnes but there are limited hours for hearing everything that I would like to.

    "Originally posted by JFLL"
    Yes, I remember my father claiming (probably tongue-in-cheek) that he was really named Alf Camp and used to play in a cafe in Birmingham.
    Yes, poor old "Alf" was initially interned as an alien (Italian, of course) when the 2nd World War broke out and used his time inside practicing and learning the core concerto repertoire. He went inside as a dance and jazz band leeader and came out as a virtuoso violinist. Soon however he became a stalwart of troop entertainmant with ENSA. He was the first British violinist to be allowed to play in the USSR after the war. Alfredo Campoli (it was his real name) was the proud owner of two Stradivarius violins, the Baillot-Pommerau of 1694 and the Dragonetti of 1700.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon View Post
    Wot! No Zukerman?
    No CD, sadly, but it's available as a download.

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