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Thread: BaL 4.02.12 - Rachmaninov's Symphony no. 2 in E minor

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    Bloody good value!
    "The isle is full of noises... Sounds, and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not"
    The Tempest, Act III scene 2 ll 148-9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Monty Golfear View Post
    I agree about not cutting the works . Did you ever record Rach 3 ? ....I grew up with your recordings of the 1st and 2nd concertos on Decca , I still love them.!
    Well, I've played Rach 3 many times, but one performance was recorded, in 1970. I wouldn't be ashamed of it! But I have the only copy - it would go well with No.1 from 1958.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caliban View Post
    Bloody good value!
    ....and even better b******Y value if you get it in its original incarnation as part of the complete symphonies set. Plus great "fillers" too, I might add!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Katin View Post
    Well, I've played Rach 3 many times, but one performance was recorded, in 1970. I wouldn't be ashamed of it! But I have the only copy - it would go well with No.1 from 1958.
    Shame it isn't available!?....dare I ask who you recorded it with?

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    I don't own Rachmaninov's Second, having only begun getting to know the composer through the piano music.

    I have now read through this read. Obviously, Previn was the BaL winner (I'm hoping to hear that BaL in a week or so), but Ashkenazy has much nicer sound, with the Concertgebouw brass really seem to rasp thrillingly in the crescendos.

    I have two questions for MBers:

    1) How important do you feel the first movement repeat it is? Wikipedia lists recordings as either complete or complete, first movement repeat.

    2) This is a recent release and I wondered what MBers made of it:



    Reviews seem to be mixed - the first movement clocks in at over 23 mins. The recording also seems quite compressed and distant for a modern recording.
    Last edited by Thropplenoggin; 01-01-13 at 20:10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thropplenoggin View Post

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    Reviews seem to be mixed - the first movement clocks in at over 23 mins. The recording also seems quite compressed and distant for a modern recording.
    I find with many Liverpool recordings that they need to be played at quite high levels before they snap into focus. It's a fine performance, but Ashkenazy's excitement and the Concertgebouw's magnificent playing still never fails to impress.

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    I bought the Petrenko recording just before Christmas. Whenever I listen to it I am greatly put off by the coarse string sound, especially when they play loudly in the higher reaches where, on my system, they sound very coarse indeed and make unpleasant listening. It was so unpleasant that I wondered whether there was something badly wrong with my audio system, until I put on one of the BIS Sibelius/Vanska CDs!

    It is probably due to my system as much as the recording's engineering - my PMC FB1+ speakers are probably quite revealing, which can be (and often is) a curse.
    Last edited by johnb; 01-01-13 at 21:27.

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    I found this cd something of a disappointment, somehow lacking in bloom and tension. I recognise the sound characteristics identified by John.

    Not to be lightly dismissed, I look forward to another spin and the chance to reassess soon.

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    Ashkenazy was my first recording of No 2 and I found it just a bit self-indulgent and slow . Previn on the other hand was superb from start to finish and I find no problem with the sound albeit I understand that the analogue ASD had more warmth and bloom.

    Otherwise I am very fond of the Rozhdestvensky/LSO which was on Pickwick back in the day .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
    I don't own Rachmaninov's Second, having only begun getting to know the composer through the piano music.

    I have now read through this read. Obviously, Previn was the BaL winner (I'm hoping to hear that BaL in a week or so), but Ashkenazy has much nicer sound, with the Concertgebouw brass really seem to rasp thrillingly in the crescendos.

    I have two questions for MBers:

    1) How important do you feel the first movement repeat it is? Wikipedia lists recordings as either complete or complete, first movement repeat.

    2) This is a recent release and I wondered what MBers made of it:



    Reviews seem to be mixed - the first movement clocks in at over 23 mins. The recording also seems quite compressed and distant for a modern recording.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-lis...condition=used

    65 minutes worth!

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