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    ... and why are so many clichés rounded off with a "to coin a phrase"?

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    que sera


    to coin a phrase

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
    ... and why are so many clichés rounded off with a "to coin a phrase"?
    Irony?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panjandrum View Post
    Irony?
    - I wish! (TCaP!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercia View Post
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    to coin a phrase
    "Whatever will be will be" is tautological, like predestination, since whatever happens was going to happen, otherwise it wouldn't.

    (Unless of course you're one of those people who says things happen because they're intended. But for that to be the case would require an intender.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
    "Whatever will be will be" is tautological, like predestination, since whatever happens was going to happen, otherwise it wouldn't...
    Don't really agree. At the very least it's an intentional, ironic, tautology - but I'd say it's nearer to the idea of hendyadis ("it's nice and warm today";"the sound and the fury"). Both use a repetition of ideas for emphasis, and both are stylistically sound.
    Last edited by Pabmusic; 20-04-12 at 00:51.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pabmusic View Post
    Don't really agree. At the very least it's an intentional, ironic, tautology - but I'd say it's nearer to the idea of hendyadis ("it's nice and warm today";"the sound and the fury"). Both use a repetition of ideas for emphasis, and both are stylistically sound.
    Cor, nice one Pab - I'll have to practice the pronunciation before I use it, mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by amateur51 View Post
    Cor, nice one Pab - I'll have to practice the pronunciation before I use it, mind

    Mind you, it looks faintly Welsh: "hendyadis" (? = "the old couple"?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by amateur51 View Post
    Cor, nice one Pab - I'll have to practice the pronunciation before I use it, mind
    That's one thing I enjoy about these forums, Ams - where else would I ever get the chance to write 'hendyadis'?

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