Granny tax, cash for suppers, pasty tax, petrol panic....
What next?
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Granny tax, cash for suppers, pasty tax, petrol panic....
What next?
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One would hope (Originally Posted by johnb
) that the libdems would see sense and call a halt to the whole shabby business
but not much chance of that sadly
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You forgot Horsegate and tax cuts for the rich.
Perhaps something like this which provides an appropriate image for this government and its leader.What next?
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we are stuck in the classic Marxist bind of a surplus of labour and a surplus of capital failing to engage with each other eh .....
maybe the point is that no one knows what to do but i for one doubt that ..... it was mainly the war machine that unlocked capital in the thirties otherwise we need to outdo the New Deal in public investment, regulation of markets finance & banking, sponsorship of good works and artistic endeavours ....
... oh and while we were at it we could take the water gas and electric, not to mention trains and buses and the telephones back into mutual ownership etc ... on the basis that public employment is far preferable to welfare as a national cost .... and that utility profits made from the common goods of society are rather too gangster and old fashioned in the 21c
"Society is indeed a contract. It is a partnership in all science; a partnership in all art; a partnership in every virtue, and in all perfection. As the ends of such a partnership cannot be obtained in many generations, it becomes a partnership not only between those who are living, but between those who are living, those who are dead, and those who are to be born.”
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One of Cornelius Cardew's first 'political' pieces was a somewhat Cagean graphic score entitied "Ten Thousand Nails in the Coffin of Imperialism". The jerry can afair seems more like another nail than a successful diversionary tactic.
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Lovely to see the Maceroon harking back 20 years or more (it's more isn't it) to Nigel Lawson's imposition of VAT on to hot take-away food and how 'unfair' it is for the small hot food shop having to levy it but not the big supermarkets whose loophole the Maceroon was seeking to close in the interests of 'fairness'.
What the Maceroon never seemed to realise is that when VAT on hot take-away food was imposed there was a huge hue & cry about how this was another tax on poor people trying to get a hot meal while living rough or in hostels or in dreadful Bed & Breakfast hotels as homeless individuals and families.
But then again, Louise Casey 'solved' street homelessness, didn't she?
There was nothing 'fair' about VAT on hot take-away food then and there's nothing 'fair' about it now.
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absolutely ams ... the simplest tax of all .. none take it off!
"Society is indeed a contract. It is a partnership in all science; a partnership in all art; a partnership in every virtue, and in all perfection. As the ends of such a partnership cannot be obtained in many generations, it becomes a partnership not only between those who are living, but between those who are living, those who are dead, and those who are to be born.”
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Why not remove VAT on hot take-away food and household fuel and have differential VAT rates for luxury goods, e.g. 80% for top-end sports cars (still pocket money for footballers and executives)? Having differential rates would better reflect people's ability to pay and redistribute the burden of indirect taxation in a similar way to direct taxation.
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Crikey aeolium- steady on!
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