Apart from going to Argos and buying the one with the most buttons....

[MrGongGong]

ATC's may look great and sound better than most but they are still loudspeaker technology that hasn't changed much in 80 years.
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but they are British ?
and have your ears changed ? Mine are more or less intact (unlike some who seem to like to listen to stuff on earbuds at 120db)

[Ariosto]

but they are British ?
and have your ears changed ? Mine are more or less intact (unlike some who seem to like to listen to stuff on earbuds at 120db)

I've no idea, they are just speakers to me. But if you want to sell I could go up to a fiver for them ... My ears are just fine, I never listen at high levels anyway, and I normally do not spend that much time listening to takes and editing them.

[Bryn]

Cans can be very useful when editing when it comes to pin-point cutting, pasting, etc. (as can the eyes when working at wave level), but they are hopeless when it comes to assessing and adjusting stereo imagery. For that, decent monitor speakers (preferably of UK design and manufacture) are the only real option unless one is aiming strictly for binaural playback (which does make a fair bit of sense these days, given the preponderance of head/earphone use). However, I for one do not like listening via cans if even merely reasonable speakers are an option.

[Ariosto]

Cans can be very useful when editing when it comes to pin-point cutting, pasting, etc. (as can the eyes when working at wave level), but they are hopeless when it comes to assessing and adjusting stereo imagery. For that, decent monitor speakers (preferably of UK design and manufacture) are the only real option unless one is aiming strictly for binaural playback (which does make a fair bit of sense these days, given the preponderance of head/earphone use). However, I for one do not like listening via cans if even merely reasonable speakers are an option.

Whilst I agree with you, setting the stereo imagery is done either when recording or adjusted when listening to the first take. After that it's set and you can edit on cans. (Uless using MS mic set up where you can have more ajustments later in post production, although even here a special amp can be used to set it whilst tracking).

But of course speakers have their uses, cans can get a bit hot, and if I'm just listening to the usual rubbish on R3 then I'm moving about the room/house then cans are no good at all.

But I often hear a CD on cans after I've heard it on speakers and although my speakers are OK even though they are British rubbish (Oh, maybe there not, as I think they were taken over by some far east outfit) - I'm then amazed how much better the sound is, with more clarity, definition, and articulation. And balance seems better too. Maybe though I'm living in cloud cuckoo land and I'm imagining it all. I'm sure Mr GG will agree that must be the case ...

[Stephen Smith]

Can I suggest potential buyers consider AVI speakers - Gloucestershire based manufacturer of active speakers (active as used in studios).
For £1250 you get a pair of speakers with powerful onboard amplifiers, and a high quality DAC. All you need to connect are your sources - preferably by optical cable, but a facility for analogue. Also, because of a new model, owners of the ADM 9 standmounted speakers are upgrading and they are on occasion available secondhand.
http://www.avihifi.co.uk/store.html
Also there is the HDD forum
http://hddaudio.net/
Their speakers are excellent value, clear and powerful and can be audtioned at Bartletts in London or Five Ways Hi Fidelity in Birmimgham (or factory visits are welcomed). I have their speakers and they are clear and powerful. There was a "GRramophone" review a couple of years ago, and others.
Worth considering if you are prone to upgrade-itis aka box swapping (something I largely resisted and is now completely behind me.
Stephen

[Beef Oven]

Can I suggest potential buyers consider AVI speakers - Gloucestershire based manufacturer of active speakers (active as used in studios).
For £1250 you get a pair of speakers with powerful onboard amplifiers, and a high quality DAC. All you need to connect are your sources - preferably by optical cable, but a facility for analogue. Also, because of a new model, owners of the ADM 9 standmounted speakers are upgrading and they are on occasion available secondhand.
http://www.avihifi.co.uk/store.html
Also there is the HDD forum
http://hddaudio.net/
Their speakers are excellent value, clear and powerful and can be audtioned at Bartletts in London or Five Ways Hi Fidelity in Birmimgham (or factory visits are welcomed). I have their speakers and they are clear and powerful. There was a "GRramophone" review a couple of years ago, and others.
Worth considering if you are prone to upgrade-itis aka box swapping (something I largely resisted and is now completely behind me.
Stephen

I am considering ADM9s as my next purchase. Don't know too much about them, but I want to rid myself of my Naim boxes and have a Laptop/PC led system.

P.S. I have PMd you.

[Stephen Smith]

I'm very limited as to my free time (but have replied to Beef Oven) , and I have no great audio expertise. I wouldn't, therefore, be able to debate relative merits as against other set ups. But as an owner (with no other association to AVI) I thought these link to other info might be of inerest to forum members in search of good sound and good value. I suggest the best thing for forum members is to try to get to listen to the AVI system(s) if this has aroused your interest..
Stephen

[Beef Oven]

I'm very limited as to my free time (but have replied to Beef Oven) , and I have no great audio expertise. I wouldn't, therefore, be able to debate relative merits as against other set ups. But as an owner (with no other association to AVI) I thought these link to other info might be of inerest to forum members in search of good sound and good value. I suggest the best thing for forum members is to try to get to listen to the AVI system(s) if this has aroused your interest..
Stephen

Thanks for your pm - I will audition some ADM 9s in London in the next couple of weeks.

Once again, thanks

[teamsaint]

so...still using the old system..
still baffled....read a magazine today, accidentally... are these the coming thing
http://www.hifichoice.co.uk/news/art...pound;349/8863
or not?
Ta

[MrGongGong]

NOT

Though many things are "coming things" including incontinence , ash wednesday and the dreary football season