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Thread: Prom 17 (26.7.12): Beethoven & Boulez

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    Quote Originally Posted by heliocentric View Post
    Indeed. Speaking of recordings, one I'd recommend that seems very little known is a CD on the CordAria label with Peter Rundel conducting Das Neue Ensemble (a group from Hannover), which I think has the intensity and the exactitude. It's very well worth seeking out (and also contains Improvisations sur Mallarmé I and II and Dérive I).
    Downloaded (once I managed to get past the various 'security' checks at iTunes, which I've never used before). Thanks, it's a wonderful performance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSkelton View Post
    Thanks, it's a wonderful performance!
    Glad you liked it.

    I don't know if you're aware of the Wolf Fifth blog - it's dedicated to "rare vinyl records from the golden age of avantgarde and experimental music" and contains three recordings of the Marteau - Boulez conducting in 1964 and 1974 (my favourite one until Rundel came along), and Robert Craft in 1961.

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    Did anyone hear last night's Prom, or attend?

    I hope the audience enjoyed the Boulez as much as I, having been afforded the luxury of the two Beethoven symphonies. Notwithstanding the ostensible inspiration, the Boulez was, I thought, one of his wittiest and most accessible works, with even a few hommages to Messiaen's harmonic methods in the parallelling of the solo violin part near the start. I did think Beethoven 8 was taken a little too slowly, however.

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    The Beethoven 8 & 7 repeated this afternoon, S_A?

    Not in the Hall but heard both broadcasts. Yes, all the symphonies were much slower than I believe LvB intended, but I thought Barenboim pulled them off to his own standards - I particularly liked the Seventh as a "Symphony in One Movement". And, like last year's Missa Solemnis (conducted by Davis), I felt it was like watching a slow-motion lightning flash: fascinating to watch the details unfurling themselves. I still prefer "blink-and-you-miss-it" Beethoven, where Music becomes a force of Nature.

    I enjoyed all the Boulez pieces - the Dialogue de l'ombre doubles a wonderfully beguiling mixture of Beckett (Not I) and Lava Lamp: those beautifully gloopy clarinet sounds - and the joie de vivre of Anthemes, in particular. Gloriously enthusiastic performances by this new generation of Musicians: the ensemble pieces were dispatched with a finesse that would've made the London Sinfonietta weep!

    I think Boulez can happily rest assured that his place in the repertoire is now secure - not just in Historical significance, but in the affections and enthusiasm of audiences and performers alike.

    As Berio puts it in his Sinfonia: "Thank you, Mr Boulez!" And thank you, Mr Barenboim, too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
    The Beethoven 8 & 7 repeated this afternoon, S_A?
    That's right, ferney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heliocentric View Post
    I don't know if you're aware of the Wolf Fifth blog - it's dedicated to "rare vinyl records from the golden age of avantgarde and experimental music" and contains three recordings of the Marteau - Boulez conducting in 1964 and 1974 (my favourite one until Rundel came along), and Robert Craft in 1961.
    I am aware of it but I'd lost touch with the site when I lost some bookmarks (same with the High Ponytail) - thanks for the reminder!

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