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Thread: Prom 23 (31.7.12): Vaughan Williams, Ireland, Delius & Walton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caliban View Post
    Lemalu's recording of Sea Fever
    I bought that disc too - EMI Debut with a very ambitious choice of repertoire (Brahms' 4 Serious Songs on yer first disc for heaven's sake? - Hotter and Kipnis gave their interpretations just a wee bit longer to mature. And then throw in L'horizon chimerique to invite comparison with Panzera, Bernac, Souzay while you're at it...).

    Even then it never seemed quite as big and wonderful as it was cracked up to be - sad.

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    Lemalu was noticeably ill at ease in the Ireland, as seen and heard from the Arena, but then the piece is such a terrible turkey, I really can't understand why it was resurrected with that banal poem and the tedious orchestral contribution. For me it would have been much better to have given us other works, Mai-Dun perhaps, or the Forgotten Rite.

    The Tallis Fantasia sounded beautiful, with the spacial effects well achieved and fine string sound. The Delius was also very good. Otaka is not Barbirolli, but then, who is ? It's sad that in his last years Beecham didn't make a stereo recording of it.

    Belshazzar went very well, I thought, with Lemalu in better voice, but he has acquired a distressing wobble which was less evident in the Walton. I loved the famous extra brass choirs from where we stood, and the chorus were terrific throughout the evening. There have been many fine Feasts at the Proms, and I place this one high on the list. Nice anvil !

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    On Belshazzar I'm with Caliban here, more or less...

    ... at home the performance came across with great power and brilliance, with a firmly pitched and articulate chorus and splendid brass; but Lemalu's throb was intrusive, though it improved as the performance developed. The big moments - those big, sudden crashes, e.g. the end of "Thus in Babylon" - were smartly despatched, but the longer choral sections, "Praise Ye..." and "Then Sing Aloud", were a little too measured and literal, they needed more snap and bite - more Previn-esque ZING.

    But here on a damp, grey, dark evening in Liverpool, THAT moment - when Belshazzar's fate is so brusquely announced - this listener, huddled in a dressing-gown, was quite decidedly -

    "SLAIN!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
    THAT moment - when Belshazzar's fate is so brusquely announced - this listener, huddled in a dressing-gown, was quite decidedly -

    "SLAIN!!"
    That was brilliantly done!!
    "The isle is full of noises... Sounds, and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caliban View Post
    ...The Ireland, it was interesting to read, was a Proms regular almost each year from 1943 into the '50s... One could see why, English elysian visions (after a rather naff start) à la Intimations of Immortality, some sections I'll be glad to hear again...
    You can understand why the piece, with its left-wing utopianism (and quote from the Internationale) was popular after the war. It was probably the most successful large piece Ireland wrote, the Piano Concerto aside. One consequence (I suspect) was that Ireland felt he should have been made Master of the Queen's Music instead of Bliss. Apparently, Bax (Ireland and Bax had been friends for years) had great sway in nominating his successor, and told Ireland, "I haven't put you forward, old chap, as I know you don't like that sort of thing". For the rest of his life, Ireland would occasionally make it clear that that was not how he viewed it.

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    Thank you forthat, pabmusic.


    This Prom I was eagerl;y waiting to hear. The programme is rather mouth wateri8ng, to say the least. I was rather unwell yesterday though, so have yet to hear this. I also see that ity is to be broadcast on 9th /auguast too! Whcich will be good,sa like EA saysthat they make full use of thye RAH's vast cavernous spaces!
    Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life(Berthold Auerbach)

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    Four works that I heard live a great deal in my long ago youth. I started to record on my TV but that annoying little thingy that floats about on the otherwise blank screen when recording R3 drove me [more] dotty so decided to wait and record the whole concert on BBC4 on the 9th.

    I've had a rest from Belshazzar so am looking forward to it. Love the Delius and RVW, when well played but never got to grips with the John Ireland work. I can hear Ernest Chapman tut-tutting in heaven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
    Thanks caliban for posting the 'live' critique so quickly. Any comments on Lemalu? Madame LMP was profoundly unimpressed with him in the Ireland, the wobble in particular. My impression was that he sounded as if imitating English baritones pre- or just-postwar: clear, plain and manly but not a lot of individuality. From what I heard of the Walton he seemed maybe a bit stronger there, but a veterinary crisis with small daughter's guinea pig prevented close listening
    I trust that the guinea pig has made it through the night, LMP?

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    I thoroughly enjoyed this concert.
    The highlight was RVW Tallis Fantasia for me,stunning.
    Enjoyed the Ireland too (see the BBC can programme rare British music).
    "Music is the best means we have of digesting time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by amateur51 View Post
    I trust that the guinea pig has made it through the night, LMP?
    Am: sadly, Kilimanjiro the guinea pig ceased roughly on the midnight with (one hopes) no pain, despite a late-night visit to the vet The funeral was today while I was at work: family only.

    The big question now is: Did he successfully pass on his genes before he went? We shall keep the world's media fully updated.

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