your post # 296 ahinton.
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your post # 296 ahinton.
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Just search the document of "bullying".
is it pge 6, or is there another section in the ofsted report bryn?
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Back in its enlightened early days, Channel 4 had a programme titled "Union World", which examined and went well into the internal politics and power struggles of the labour movement; but it then dropped it, along with the channel's phone-in street service equivalent of the Beeb's "Feedback", (then under a different name iirc), on grounds of union matters being "boring" to the general viewer, and the call boxes abused.Originally Posted by handsomefortune
but least discussed at work by employers and managers ... bullying goes on all over the place and is not a prerogative of the 'public school' system ..... on the other hand privilege is ....
imv it's not discussed, as proper discussion would lessen the unspoken threat. the threat is useful in itself.
unions didn't help dominant power structures , ownership, and management being a form of privilege) in this context. so it was/is important that generalised discussion of all unions were/are mainly negative, usually emphasising inner turmoil, and not the greater leverage of management, and ownership, in having a frightened, or preferably petrified work force.
when is there ever a tv programme about 'a great employment tribunal' that really paid off, in terms of justice at work? (not to mention stress to an employee, profit for legal representation) etc, and yet these things happen to friends, and colleagues ime.
Although I don't recall in what context, I do remember the BBC being challenged on air over not having taken up its public broadcasting duty to assume responsibility for trade union news coverage - something it no longer did on programes such as Panorama - and the Beeb stating that such matters were now dispersed under under different news items in which union matters were treated as ancillary. As a consequence, a) union news is something which only ever comes up when there's a dispute on, or the question of that evil thing the union block vote arises in relation to the election of a Labour Party leader; and, b) the general public remains ideologically in blighted ignorance of what trade unions are for, let alone their history and role within the labour movement; and it takes a certain level of political consciousness to understand why this is the case.
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Its a short distance into the report, handsome, and comes under "Pupil Safety" or some such heading.
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calum da jazbo - dorries's wiki link is totally laughable. i believe she is a blatant opportunist, and only 'bunglers' would associate with someone with such a damning track record. she's hardly 'a credit to the working classes', or the north! which returns to the central point that class aside, ideally people should be self regulating, and self respect valued more. rather than what a person 'can get away with'.
serial apologist,
i might have known there was media coverage at one point on ch 4 and the beeb!
a certain level of political consciousness i suspect might return (as a vague memory, or anecdotal conversation) for many people during this 'recession' (or whatever it is that is driving current returns to victorian working environments)! 'telephone abuse' sounds quite comic, in comparison to general hardship. though the red boxes hardly exist any longer, people will be charged crazy amounts, beat up their own mobile phones instead presumably. none of which will get much of a mention in the media!
whereas the plight of shareholders seems to get a look in within mainstream media, with the aviva climb down, and apparently william hill both experiencing share holder revolt..... i suspect that william hill, and aviva ceo's had some outstanding fees to pay off ...so went for a banker style 'withdrawal of as much lolly as poss', mirroring opportunist behavior of 'crims' at a cash point having stolen someone's plastic card. essentially, returning home from school to a dad under extreme £ pressure is never ideal for any family. (and returning home to dorries.... even worse)
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darn it, i can't get your daily mirror video link to work calum da jazbo - (just the 'microsoft' advert repeatedly). i don't see that the text makes cleggers look any more moribund than usual, it just makes him look like a waste bin, (same as usual) for macaroon to dump in, excuse, hide behind. that's what cleg is 'for'. (the same as when something goes wrong, and warsi takes the rap, does the media appearances, that's what she's 'for'). messing with the constitution, and 'cleaning up' virtual life, protecting children is handy, as you don't have to necessarily do, or prove much. you can even say you've changed things for the 'better' when you haven't, which is always useful! besides the media will churn out column inches of verbage regardless!
as for the (sleb-like)? colourful large photo images accompanying the article - they appear both lavish and large, and (personally) repel me from politics, rather than draw me in...it looks more like a coup for the mirror reporter, sitting in the large, empty victorian room, with the pm Himself, teapot 'at the ready'!it's a bit 'alice in wonderland' somehow... (but not as witty).
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...in which I merely questioned (with tongue firmly in cheek, as I'd have assum ed was rather obvious!) whethr bullying really did come "free" at Eton (as fhg had suggested, possibly also with tongue in cheek) or whether it had to be paid for; shome mishundershtanding there, methinks...
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Whilst you are right about much of what you write here, I question the part about what trade unions are "for" and what the public perceiption might be of what they are "for"; things move on in the labour market and in trade union activities, just as they do in all other walks of life and, whilst the trade union movement obviously grew out of the labour movement (or vice versa, whichever way you might care to look at it), the value and purpose of trade unionism today, whilst not fundamentally different to that of its origins, is nevertheless quite diferent to waht it once was and it is less the harbinger of left-wing socialism than it was once considered to be.
At best, trade unions represent a balancing viewpoint and their input into the labour market can often be constructive and benefit employers and members alike, yet, as you suggest, most of us tend only to hear about trade unions when there is either a dispute or the makings of one or when something controversial or negative-sounding is afoot. Trade unions have accordingly acquired something of an image problem which has, broadly speaking, been thrust upon them externally rather than than arising as a consequence of extreme left-wingery from within, especially over the last 30 yeas or so. I remember, in my relatively early days of trade union membership, two branch secretaries evidencing the kind of right-wing stances that most people would not dream of associating with trade union members, let alone officials, but that did not seem in any way to interfere with their dedication to the Musicians' Union.
Incidentally, my only problem with that union (from which I resigned some years ago) was when I applied for life membership of it following 35 years' continuous membership (in accordance with the rules) only to be told that, in order to qualify for this privilege, members must also have attained state retirement age! - a movable and eventually to be abolished concept in the first place and one which in any event has rather less relevance in the music profession than in most others; they wouldn't accept my protest, so I parted company with it and even the fact that I had risked expulsion from grammar school by joining it cut no ice with it.
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