Bleeding chunks ?

[cloughie]

Maybe all on here but no contents list yet.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sir-Adrian-B...d=AZFAVK42ANC5

More than likely, look forward to details!

[Ferretfancy]

I recently ordered some bleeding chunks of Wagner from America via Amazon, a Mercury recording by the Detroit SO and Paul Paray. I have been steadily acquiring all the Mercury discs that were available on CD, and this was the last and most elusive on my list.

It arrived this morning, and I opened it eagerly, only to find a disc labelled " Luxury you can Afford" featuring Joe Cocker !

I have emailed the sender pointing out that this is a luxury I cannot afford, but have yet to get a reply!

This is the first time that this has happened to me when ordering online.

[Flosshilde]

Most generally used in respect of orchestral pieces of Wagner taken out and played in a concert context . I note in IRR this month there is a reference in the Jarvi Wagner Symphony review as to how they have disappeared from concerts perhaps as a result of sneering at hearing Wagner out of context.

I think this is rather a shame . There has been some great Wagner conducting of bleeding chunks - Boult's 1970s recordings come to mind and without bleeding chunks how are novices going to get to know his music ?

Obviously changing taste has a great deal to do with their absence from concerts, but I wonder if the shrinkage in concert length has also contributed. Most orchestral concerts now have a single symphony in the second half, with perhaps a very short additional piece if the symphony is less than half an hour. I think concerts in the past were rather longer, with more room for a variety of pieces.

[Beef Oven]

I recently ordered some bleeding chunks of Wagner from America via Amazon, a Mercury recording by the Detroit SO and Paul Paray. I have been steadily acquiring all the Mercury discs that were available on CD, and this was the last and most elusive on my list.

It arrived this morning, and I opened it eagerly, only to find a disc labelled " Luxury you can Afford" featuring Joe Cocker !

I have emailed the sender pointing out that this is a luxury I cannot afford

Charles Pooter himself could not have put it better!!!

[Caliban]

I recently ordered some bleeding chunks of Wagner from America via Amazon, a Mercury recording by the Detroit SO and Paul Paray. I have been steadily acquiring all the Mercury discs that were available on CD, and this was the last and most elusive on my list.

It arrived this morning, and I opened it eagerly, only to find a disc labelled " Luxury you can Afford" featuring Joe Cocker !

I have emailed the sender pointing out that this is a luxury I cannot afford, but have yet to get a reply!

This is the first time that this has happened to me when ordering online.

Perfect post, Ferret! Good luck with the exchange!

[Pabmusic]

Obviously changing taste has a great deal to do with their absence from concerts, but I wonder if the shrinkage in concert length has also contributed. Most orchestral concerts now have a single symphony in the second half, with perhaps a very short additional piece if the symphony is less than half an hour. I think concerts in the past were rather longer, with more room for a variety of pieces.

I think you're right. Shortened concerts give greater prominence to symphonies and concertos, thus making them the seem more correct - even better music - for concerts. Shorter pieces don't fit in easily any more. There's also been a trend towards completeness that dislikes, and looks down upon, excerpts from anything.

[french frank]

and this was the last and most elusive on my list

And still is?

I hope you get the disc rather than a disappointing refund.

[Ferretfancy]

And still is?

I hope you get the disc rather than a disappointing refund.

french frank

Thanks for the wish, I have now had an apologetic email, and I don't have to return Joe Cocker! Instead they are continuing to search for my bleeding chunks.
PS A second email has arrived to say that the order has been shipped, fingers crossed !

[Flosshilde]

they are continuing to search for my bleeding chunks.

Which particular bits of you are missing? Presumably not vital, as you've managed without them.

[Ferretfancy]

No bits missing yet Flosshilde, but there might be in September ( New knee! )