EU discussion

[MrGongGong]

I've just realised where your quote comes from Beef
blimey, I didn't have you down as a follower of that delusional fantasist

[Beef Oven]

I've just realised where your quote comes from Beef
blimey, I didn't have you down as a follower of that delusional fantasist

Jeez, how Orwellian!! Reality is fantasy for you!!!

[MrGongGong]

Jeez, how Orwellian!! Reality is fantasy for you!!!

"Reality"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HaRdtU73Lo

[gurnemanz]

I've just realised where your quote comes from Beef
blimey, I didn't have you down as a follower of that delusional fantasist

I'm allergic to Mr Farage. I like being English but don't feel inclined to shout about it. He and his party seem to me to embody all that is worst about us as a nation.

[Beef Oven]

"Reality"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HaRdtU73Lo

It's been a while GG, but do they still seem relevant? Course they do, course they do, course they...............!!!

[MrGongGong]

I'm allergic to Mr Farage. I like being English but don't feel inclined to shout about it. He and his party seem to me to embody all that is worst about us as a nation.

BNP lite i'm afraid
and more than a little delusional ............ I love the locked groove at the end of side 1 (?) of The Culling is Coming but this man is too much (maaan )

[Beef Oven]

I'm allergic to Mr Farage. I like being English but don't feel inclined to shout about it. He and his party seem to me to embody all that is worst about us as a nation.

that's because you haven't a clue

[MrGongGong]

this sort of thing is beneath you GG. in all seriousness, i would like you to retract the BNP lite comment. the bnp are fascists.

So is Farage i'm afraid
bigoted loud mouthed idiot
at least Steve Ignorant had something to shout about !

http://www.richardcorbett.org.uk/the...about-ukip.pdf

[Boilk]

I'm allergic to Mr Farage. I like being English but don't feel inclined to shout about it. He and his party seem to me to embody all that is worst about us as a nation.

He and his party haven't lost sight of the fact that Edward Heath took us into what was essentially an agreement on trade, and that the gradual erosion of powers from Westminster to Brussels (or Strasbourg, depending on which week of the month we're in) is something the British people ... rich or poor, black or white ... might care to have a say in by way of a referendum. And we're not getting one ... I wonder why?

It's no good saying that by voting for one of the main parties at general elections, the British people have consciously consented to this erosion of sovereignty. In this media age, General elections are won on personality not policy, on media manipulation of public opinion not genuine debate ... but if there was a referendum on one issue, the result would be democratic and decisive, one way or the other, which actually is all UKIP is demanding.

[James Wonnacott]

I'm allergic to Mr Farage. I like being English but don't feel inclined to shout about it. He and his party seem to me to embody all that is worst about us as a nation.

The problem is that the three old parties and, for that matter, the BBC, will only allow the "great unwashed" (that's us) a say on relatively minor matters as they are all agreed that they must keep the option of a job in Brussels when they get voted out.
All we get in the news is pasty tax and gay marriage whilst none of them will mention the elephant in the room.
It is for this reason that UKIP (and worryingly the BNP) are making headway.
I've been a member of UKIP since 1997 and stood as a parliamentary candidate twice for them, simply because none of the existing parties gave me the option of a vote on our membership of the eu.

I'm not a euro-skeptic - skepticism implies doubt - I have no doubt, the only way is out.