Wha'd'ee say wha'd'ee say???Originally Posted by Beef Oven
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Wha'd'ee say wha'd'ee say???
"The isle is full of noises... Sounds, and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not"
The Tempest, Act III scene 2 ll 148-9
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It's a long story and only for the most select people to knowWha'd'ee say wha'd'ee say???
"A system of proportions in the service of spiritual impulse."
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It's a long story and only for the most select people to know
"The isle is full of noises... Sounds, and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not"
The Tempest, Act III scene 2 ll 148-9
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It isn't exactly clear what Rattle said but you get the drift ....Wha'd'ee say wha'd'ee say???
http://www.musicweb-international.com/Sinopoli.htm
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I nearly tiddled myself with delight when that happened, almost as good as when the Tories declined to elect Heseltine.
But I can be funny that way
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Easy, Tiddles!I nearly tiddled myself with delight when that happened, almost as good as when the Tories declined to elect Heseltine.
But I can be funny that way
"The isle is full of noises... Sounds, and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not"
The Tempest, Act III scene 2 ll 148-9
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I didn't want to disturb the tuk-tuk driverEasy, Tiddles!
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Cali - Amsy's (Tiddles) link gives the flavour. I can't remember the precise words of Rattle, it was a long time ago now, but he more than questioned Sinopoli's integrity as a musician. I was a subscriber to the Philharmonia and loved the Orchestra dearly back in the day.
Most musicians and fellow-travellers simply didn't understand Sinopoli.
He was a giant. It's hopeless to try to put it into words (well, certainly for me) but he got so much deeper into the psyche and raison of the great works. Check out his, Schubert recording of the unfinished, FM's Italian, Elektra, Bruckner 5 with the Dresdeners, various Mahler, Second Vienese school recordings and more.
From the Evening Standard 11th Feb 2004 :-
".....Twice in as many years, I have seen a music director run out of town. The first was Giuseppe Sinopoli, who arrived at the Philharmonia Orchestra in 1984, with an 80-disc Deutsche Grammophon contract and a winning smile. Intelligent and affable (he held a medical doctorate and medals in archaeology), Sinopoli was a capable opera conductor who had yet to prove himself in the unsparing light of concert sound.
The cerebral Italian spent rehearsals waffling on about the neuroses of Mahler and Schumann when all the band wanted to know was whether he wanted them to play louder or softer. The reviews were so awful that some critics refused to attend another concert and guest conductors backed off. In 1994, the orchestra dropped Sinopoli. He died, poor chap, three years ago, aged 55, while conducting Aida in Berlin.
I once suggested that the Philharmonia had split on his merits, only to receive a correction from the chairman who insisted that no more than five players ever thought he was any good. The rest put up with him for the record deal. In Sinopoli's case, the verdict of musicians and critics was pretty much unanimous. "
The truth is, he just did not fit the stereo-type - an amazing musician and a beautiful human being.
There, got that off me chest (aided soley by Pepsi Max!)
"A system of proportions in the service of spiritual impulse."
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Thanks Beefs. I agree. I have his Schubert/Mendelssohn, and a number of others. Latterly I was enthralled by hearing his Mahler 7 on the radio - in fact, I came in part way through Mvt I and stuck with it, trying to work out who was performing. When I found out it was the late lamented Dr Sinopoli, I meant to get the CDs but never did. I might now.
PS I have this too. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Elgar-Sympho...9162793&sr=8-7 Terrific "In the South" (ditto his "Enigma" recording). Good reviews on that page...
You should start a thread about him, Beefy, see what others think!
"The isle is full of noises... Sounds, and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not"
The Tempest, Act III scene 2 ll 148-9
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Yes, I forgot about his Elgar!Thanks Beefs. I agree. I have his Schubert/Mendelssohn, and a number of others. Latterly I was enthralled by hearing his Mahler 7 on the radio - in fact, I came in part way through Mvt I and stuck with it, trying to work out who was performing. When I found out it was the late lamented Dr Sinopoli, I meant to get the CDs but never did. I might now.
PS I have this too. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Elgar-Sympho...9162793&sr=8-7 Terrific "In the South" (ditto his "Enigma" recording). Good reviews on that page...
You should start a thread about him, Beefy, see what others think!
Good suggestion Cali, I may start a thread. We need to have what is said about him put right - a sort of 'right said thread'.
"A system of proportions in the service of spiritual impulse."
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