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    Apparently senior Tories in the House of Lords (senior Tories are always 'grandees' making them sound like some rarefied alcoholic pudding - oh I get it! ) are determined to scupper the Coalition's plans for reforms because they see them as a capitulation too far by Mr Cameron to Mr Clegg.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...-david-cameron

    I can't resist highlighting this bit :

    "Senior Lib Dems insisted that Lords reform was a key part of the coalition agreement and hinted that, if the Tories did not back it, they might be less willing to hold to their side of the bargain.

    "The coalition agreement is not some kind of a la carte menu. It is not about having a pick and mix approach. You cannot have the parts you like and reject the parts you don't. A deal is a deal and it up to them deliver that deal," said a senior party figure."

    So if a political party makes an offer as part of its election strategy to the electorate like, say, students fees, then that's something that can be cast aside once they're in power and negotiating the coalition. But if two political parties enter into a coalition then the deal is absolute and binding?

    Wasn't the original idea of the coalition the much vaunted responsibility to 'save the country'?

    You gotta love those LibDems

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    Quote Originally Posted by amateur51 View Post

    Wasn't the original idea of the coalition the much vaunted responsibility to 'save the country'?


    Wasn't Henry V on TV last night ?

    classic strategy

    convince everyone that there's a "crisis" which only "strong leadership" will save us from then seize power

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a71_91srz0I

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    ah reform .... now that might well be interesting ......
    "Society is indeed a contract. It is a partnership in all science; a partnership in all art; a partnership in every virtue, and in all perfection. As the ends of such a partnership cannot be obtained in many generations, it becomes a partnership not only between those who are living, but between those who are living, those who are dead, and those who are to be born.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by amateur51 View Post
    Apparently senior Tories in the House of Lords (senior Tories are always 'grandees' making them sound like some rarefied alcoholic pudding - oh I get it! ) are determined to scupper the Coalition's plans for reforms because they see them as a capitulation too far by Mr Cameron to Mr Clegg.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...-david-cameron

    Good post, Ams. But I must take you to task about "HoLords" I suppose the other is HoComms? How about HoHum? Or HoKum?

    I can't resist highlighting this bit :

    "Senior Lib Dems insisted that Lords reform was a key part of the coalition agreement and hinted that, if the Tories did not back it, they might be less willing to hold to their side of the bargain.

    "The coalition agreement is not some kind of a la carte menu. It is not about having a pick and mix approach. You cannot have the parts you like and reject the parts you don't. A deal is a deal and it up to them deliver that deal," said a senior party figure."

    So if a political party makes an offer as part of its election strategy to the electorate like, say, students fees, then that's something that can be cast aside once they're in power and negotiating the coalition. But if two political parties enter into a coalition then the deal is absolute and binding?

    Wasn't the original idea of the coalition the much vaunted responsibility to 'save the country'?

    You gotta love those LibDems
    Very good post, Ams. But - "HoLords"?

    I suppose the 'other place' is HoComms? Or HoKum? Or HoLoadarubbish? Or ...?

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    HoL-istic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon View Post
    HoL-istic?

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    Well the other place is definitey HoC-us Pocus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pabmusic View Post
    Very good post, Ams. But - "HoLords"?

    I suppose the 'other place' is HoComms? Or HoKum? Or HoLoadarubbish? Or ...?
    My apologies - I'm never certain where the title gets chopped orf, y'see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pabmusic View Post
    Very good post, Ams. But - "HoLords"?
    As some of the Lords rent themselves out to any company that wants them, 'Ho' Lords is probably very appropriate.

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    a song for the Ho Lords ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VnwL4-Ghn0

    go for it Gareth

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