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Thread: Videoed performance of one of Lachenmann's things

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    heliocentric Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrGongGong View Post
    The "function" of the cello is to make sounds
    bowing the mute is a way of making sounds
    ... besides which, as you say, who decides what the "intended function" of an instrument is? All instruments have changed their actual function (that is to say, what they're used for, rather than what one individual or another thinks they "ought" to be used for) and indeed their form over time. The current form of the cello, with its extended fingerboard, endpin and metal-wound strings etc., has taken shape as the result of musicians doing things (playing in higher registers, finding a more ergonomic playing position, projecting its sound through larger ensembles and in larger spaces) that the cello wasn't previously "intended" to do. The Sydney Grews of the nineteenth century (there were probably a lot more of them then) would certainly have had something haughty and disdainful to say about valved horns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heliocentric View Post
    the timbral subtleties of Grido
    The Arditti Quartet playing Grido is on YouTube
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eQiTqVQdHk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwtBy...feature=relmfu
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzPs6fAAjS8

    Quote Originally Posted by heliocentric View Post
    to reintegrate many more "traditional" sounds into Lachenmann's musical vocabulary than would be found in his previous work
    Perhaps it's his Ligeti Horn Trio moment . I like Grido very much .

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    heliocentric Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSkelton View Post
    Perhaps it's his Ligeti Horn Trio moment
    Hope not!

    In Grido even the "traditional" elements somehow sound newly-created, which is one of Lachenmann's central desires I think, although it doesn't always happen - in the piano piece Serynade for example, which seems rather ponderously didactic to me. On the other hand it might appeal to those who like "music for ordinary instruments used in the ordinary way" (and being ponderously didactic).

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