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[Norfolk Born]

I had to ask my soap-expert auntie the same question some weeks back when coming back to it after a break. it's the silliest plot but basically the character is an ex-teacher who fell for a student, one of the girls, and held her hostage. When he was released (this is all very approximate you understand - do correct me, Ofca) someone he knew called Colin FishWICK died and John took his identity in order to be able to teach again.. and it keeps revisiting him as the real Fishwick mère expired, he had to go to the funeral; there is a will; plus he's killed a couple of other people along the way... and he then had a total melt-down from which he was starting to recover... Daft plot, in my opinion.

Carrot top Fizz is unaccountably devoted to him.

Equally unaccountable is how Fizz's equally ginger brother Chesney () with manky teeth and a funny face managed to hook such a very pretty young girlfriend... I can only think he has a huge...

...reserve of humorous anecdotes. Lucky girl.

That's a pretty good analysis, I would say. Surely unaccountable devotion is the mainspring of many a situation not only in soaps but also in real life?

[Caliban]

My mother & her crowd were around long before Mr Bennett took to writing - she would have told him off for "thinking he's sooooo clever, making mock of good people". However, Miss Wood might have got under her guard, being a person of the female persuasion

I always took it to mean some sort of giddy kipper who, after spending her housekeeping on a red hat that she'd always coveted, found that she had no money left for breakfast. It might also be a comment on a wilful flibbertygibbet who did so regularly, keeping her family breakfastless so that she could appear a la mode in town. It might also mean what my mother reserved as the ultimate disapproving phrase for a woman "who is no better than she ought to be".

Don't ask. Fifty-nine years of cogitating have taken me no nearer to that particular heart of darkness You had to take in the full fold of the arms, the shake of the head tilted everso slightly backwards and eyes rolled heavenwards! And what Adrian Mole and Sue Townsend have taught us are called 'thinned lips'.

My mother had little truck with giddy kippers and flibbertygibbets

yes Alan B came long after my granny had unleashed the one liners on the world too...

Come to think of it, I wonder if it isn't bound up with music hall etc... You can hear the Max Millers etc using that sort of folk one-liner on stage... but then again, did they get them (like Bennett and Wood and Peter Kay later) from overhearing them in real life. It's a northern mystery - I think it's just a long tradition of colourful metaphoric conversation...

Just remembered another - if she saw a strict looking pursed-lip sort of stuck up lady:

"Oooh help, straight-backed ones ninepence" !!

[Anna]

That's a pretty good analysis, I would say. Surely unaccountable devotion is the mainspring of many a situation not only in soaps but also in real life?

Such as my unaccountable devotion to the man in the pork pie hat?

Only joking. Thanks for the explanation Caliban because, I see there are two episodes on tonight which I fear I will have to watch.

Sean seems very loveable but a little too stereotyped, limp wrists et al, I thought that had more of less died out in portrayal of gay men? Speaking of which, are there also lesbians in Weatherfield?

[amateur51]

I had to ask my soap-expert auntie the same question some weeks back when coming back to it after a break. it's the silliest plot but basically the character is an ex-teacher who fell for a student, one of the girls, and held her hostage. When he was released (this is all very approximate you understand - do correct me, Ofca) someone he knew called Colin FishWICK died and John took his identity in order to be able to teach again.. and it keeps revisiting him as the real Fishwick mère expired, he had to go to the funeral; there is a will; plus he's killed a couple of other people along the way... and he then had a total melt-down from which he was starting to recover... Daft plot, in my opinion.

Carrot top Fizz is unaccountably devoted to him.

Equally unaccountable is how Fizz's equally ginger brother Chesney () with manky teeth and a funny face managed to hook such a very pretty young girlfriend... I can only think he has a huge...

...reserve of humorous anecdotes. Lucky girl.

I was hoping that Chesney might have grown up a bit now but he looks exactly the same as he did aeons ago. What was the name of the dog he was devoted to in the Battersby household?

I'm devoted to the Battersbys because the actor who played Les B comes from the same town as me. He was recently in court cos he tried to cause his wife to cross the central reservation in her car in order to kill them both. It's soooo close to a standard Corrie breakout plot that I was quite stunned initially when I read it.

Poor bloke.

Has anyone else noticed the similarity between Toadie from Neighbours and Fizz from Corrie?

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Fizz

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Toadie

Separated at birth, I reckon

[Norfolk Born]

Sean seems very loveable but a little too stereotyped, limp wrists et al, I thought that had more of less died out in portrayal of gay men? Speaking of which, are there also lesbians in Weatherfield?

Sean is nowhere near as funny, or likeable, as Jack in 'Will and Grace'. Sally has two daughters, one of whom is an airhead fashion model and the other a confused practising-Christian-cum-lesbian. See how long it takes you to sort them out!

[Anna]

Sean is nowhere near as funny, or likeable, as Jack in 'Will and Grace'. Sally has two daughters, one of whom is an airhead fashion model and the other a confused practising-Christian-cum-lesbian. See how long it takes you to sort them out!

Never seen Will & Grace. Sally's daughter goes out with Tod's brother, so I've sussed that out. Why, when Kevin and Sally obviously so love each other it all fell apart? Obviously (she says to herself) so as they can spin the story out!! Blimey O'Reilly, I am hooked already!!

[Caliban]

Such as my unaccountable devotion to the man in the pork pie hat?

Only joking. Thanks for the explanation Caliban because, I see there are two episodes on tonight which I fear I will have to watch.

Sean seems very loveable but a little too stereotyped, limp wrists et al, I thought that had more of less died out in portrayal of gay men? Speaking of which, are there also lesbians in Weatherfield?

Oh Anna! Toot toot!!

Yes Sean is rather pantomime gay...

And yes - Fizz and Toadie... if I may twist your phrase from another context, Am51: why, they could almost be sisters...

And Ofca - you are right about the unnaccountable nature of devotion in real life... it's just that the soaps push it to the limit!!

[Norfolk Born]

Sally's daughter goes out with Tod's brother

...another of life's great mysteries. Kevin fathered a child (Jack) while having an affair with Molly, who was married to Tyrone (she died in the tram crash), and Tyrone is Kevin's partner in the garage. Like the meerkat says: simples!

[Anna]

...another of life's great mysteries. Kevin fathered a child (Jack) while having an affair with Molly, who was married to Tyrone (she died in the tram crash), and Tyrone is Kevin's partner in the garage. Like the meerkat says: simples!

Thanks Ofca, all is clear now! But, if I can further ask just one more final thing (just so as to get up to speed) about Roy and Hayley (Tracey?) there was implied in one episode gender issues, so he/she was/is a transsexual? That confused me. So did Roy fall in love with Arthur who turned into Martha?

[Norfolk Born]

Hayley was a chap. (Roy has known for a long time). I suspected as much long before Roy found out, because she seemed to know almost as much as he did about the propulsion units of public transport vehicles in the Greater Manchester area. Roy's a lovely (as against loveable) character.