The legacy of Tikhon Khrennikov

[Serial_Apologist]

Well-researched programme about Khrennikov's role as implementer of Zhdanov's restrictive 1948 dictats on Soviet composers:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002jfz1

Of course it could never happen today, because now we are all blessed with what Richard Barrett and I have called Capitalist Realism.

[smittims]

I wondered if it had happened this year at the Proms ! Two of the works, the Anna Clyne cantata and that trumpet concerto , could have been written over a hundred years ago,while the 'new work' by John Rutter was unashamed 1950s 'easy listening', the sort of thing one would hearrhe Mike Sammes singers do on a TV variety show. . 'Entertaining' yes. 'Creative' no.

[vinteuil]

... it will be interesting to hear the take of Evgeny Kissin - "who knew and admired Khrennikov."

[eighthobstruction]

I wondered if it had happened this year at the Proms ! Two of the works, the Anna Clyne cantata and that trumpet concerto , could have been written over a hundred years ago,while the 'new work' by John Rutter was unashamed 1950s 'easy listening', the sort of thing one would hearrhe Mike Sammes singers do on a TV variety show. . 'Entertaining' yes. 'Creative' no.

....Sing soimething simples....

[Serial_Apologist]

....Sing soimething simples....

Oi Stocky, gis a tune!

[french frank]

Oi Stocky, gis a tune!

I thought it was the year Mozart was recognised:

'Ere, you're that Mozart, aren't you?
Yes.
Well, gis a tune.

[eighthobstruction]

I thought it was the year Mozart was recognised:

'Ere, you're that Mozart, aren't you?
Yes.
Well, gis a tune.

good try....good try.... (This, M'lud is a catch- phrase of Televisual performer Bruce 'Brucey' Forsythe)

[Tapiola]

Apart from Message 3, I can't think of a thread which has descended into insensitive bathos quite so quickly

[eighthobstruction]

....yes, it;s all a matter of process - one thing leads to another....sorry

[Ein Heldenleben]

Apart from Message 3, I can't think of a thread which has descended into insensitive bathos quite so quickly

Yes a profoundly serious programme which shows
how easy it is for careerist bureaucrats to crush creativity - a phenomenon not unknown outside Soviet Russia.

[Barbirollians]

The Marquez concerto over a hundred years ago - not sure about that - some of those Mexican dance tunes might be later than that ,

On the other side of the coin in the John Ogden box of RCA recordings the sleeve note by Robert Offengeld from 1968 largely ignores the music and whinges on about what an anachronism he was . That sort of pompous, highbrow criticism is enough to make me want to listen to Radio 3 Unwind.

[Barbirollians]

Ms Ash makes an extraordinary sweeping statement that Prokofiev did not compose anything of value after Khrennikov’s Jan 1948 speech .

No value ? The Sinfonia Concertante, Cello Sonata and Symphony No 7.

[Tapiola]

Ms Ash makes an extraordinary sweeping statement that Prokofiev did not compose anything of value after Khrennikov’s Jan 1948 speech .

No value ? The Sinfonia Concertante, Cello Sonata and Symphony No 7.

Indeed Barbs. There would be no DSCH Cello Concerto No 1 without the model of the Sinfonia Concertante, iirc.

[eighthobstruction]

Yes a profoundly serious programme which shows
.

I listened to it Live on Sunday -and knew most of the information already, therefore it was not profoundly serious to me (as I am sure you knew most of the information)....most of the interest revolved around controversial idiocyncratic personal anecdotes....

[smittims]

I still think 'over a hundred years ago'. Barbs. It reminded me of middle-period Falla. My point is that the Beeb are deliberately choosing old-fashioned composers. I dubt if we'll hear anything as 'cutting-edge' as Helmut Lachnmann while the present Cotroller is in charge. It's a contrast with the 'Glock era', to be sure.