EMS "Jane Austen's Music" 25/5/2025

[AuntDaisy]

"Jane Austen's Music" sounds interesting.
I wonder if Mr. Darcy's sodden shirt will make an appearance?

Jane Austen's Music
The Early Music Show

As part of the celebrations of the 250th anniversary of Jane Austen's birth, Hannah French is joined by Professor Jeanice Brooks of Southampton University to explore what we know of Austen's musical capabilities, tastes, and some of the music familiar to her.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002cbtp

[smittims]

I hope not. I was told by someone who knows Lyme Park that if he really had dived into the lake there he'd have come up more muddy than wet. This hasn't stopped National Trust from making a little profit out of the fictional association, and good luck to them.

I had forgotten how much music there is in Jane's novels, untiI remembered Mr . Woodhouse's tactful wayof stopping his daughter's singing: 'You have delighted us enough, my dear'.

[Serial_Apologist]

I hope not. I was told by someone who knows Lyme Park that if he really had dived into the lake there he'd have come up more muddy than wet. This hasn't stopped National Trust from making a little profit out of the fictional association, and good luck to them.

I had forgotten how much music there is in Jane's novels, untiI remembered Mr . Woodhouse's tactful wayof stopping his daughter's singing: 'You have delighted us enough, my dear'.

She could have been on a Haydn to nothing, then...

[smittims]

You're killing me....

[MickyD]

When I visited the Jane Austen cottage in Hampshire some years ago, I was disappointed not to have been able to attend an evening recital given on a square piano - I would love to have experienced the ambiance.

Whilst mentioning writers of that period, I owned a delightful LP called 'An Evening with the Bronte Family' with Alan Cuckston playing pieces from the family's music collection on two period pianos, one a wonderfully ethereal-sounding 1825 cabinet piano. I have long wished for it to be transferred to CD but sadly it has never happened.

[Ein Heldenleben]

I hope not. I was told by someone who knows Lyme Park that if he really had dived into the lake there he'd have come up more muddy than wet. This hasn't stopped National Trust from making a little profit out of the fictional association, and good luck to them.

I had forgotten how much music there is in Jane's novels, untiI remembered Mr . Woodhouse's tactful wayof stopping his daughter's singing: 'You have delighted us enough, my dear'.

Sorry to be a pedant but I think that’s Mr. Bennet to Mary in Pride and Prejudice Smitts…

[Ein Heldenleben]

When I visited the Jane Austen cottage in Hampshire some years ago, I was disappointed not to have been able to attend an evening recital given on a square piano - I would love to have experienced the ambiance.

Whilst mentioning writers of that period, I owned a delightful LP called 'An Evening with the Bronte Family' with Alan Cuckston playing pieces from the family's music collection on two period pianos, one a wonderfully ethereal-sounding 1825 cabinet piano. I have long wished for it to be transferred to CD but sadly it has never happened.

An evening with the Brontës would have been one of life’s more unforgettable experiences particularly if Branwell was tying one on …

[MickyD]

Sorry to be a pedant but I think that’s Mr. Bennet to Mary in Pride and Prejudice Smitts…

Indeed and I think the full quote is "you have delighted us long enough".

[smittims]

Yes, I'm grateful for the correction. I knew it was P and P but with my terrible memory for names I got the wrong father!

[Dance Band Spiv]

Yes, I'm grateful for the correction. I knew it was P and P but with my terrible memory for names I got the wrong father!

Still, there are a great many musical references in 'Emma': both Emma and Jane Fairfax being called on to play and sing; Mrs Weston playing country dances for the guests at a gathering; the dreaded Mrs Elton proposing she and Emma organise a musical society; not to mention all the discussion arising about the piano which arrives as an anonymous gift for Jane Fairfax!

[Ein Heldenleben]

Indeed and I think the full quote is "you have delighted us long enough".

In the famous (Andrew Davies) BBC adaptation they give the line to Mrs Bennet. One of my criticisms of that adaptation is the downgrading of Mr Bennet. He’s such a key figure in the book - key in the penetrating analysis of male behaviour and morality that makes it very far from just being a love story or comedy.There’s an earlier adaptation with Liz Garvie as Lizzie that’s a much truer representation. The Darcy is better looking too.

[vinteuil]

In the famous (Andrew Davies) BBC adaptation they give the line to Mrs Bennet. One of my criticisms of that adaptation is the downgrading of Mr Bennet. He’s such a key figure in the book - key in the penetrating analysis of male behaviour and morality that makes it very far from just being a love story or comedy.There’s an earlier adaptation with Liz Garvie as Lizzie that’s a much truer representation. The Darcy is better looking too.

... in the eminently superior 2005 film (Keira Knightley, Matthew Macfadyen) the excellent Donald Sutherland is exemplary as Mr Bennet

[Ein Heldenleben]

... in the eminently superior 2005 film (Keira Knightley, Matthew Macfadyen) the excellent Donald Sutherland is exemplary as Mr Bennet

Does that adaption include the key criticism of Mr Bennet’s character by Lizzie and indeed the author ? A crucial point in the book and indeed in the development of the English Novel. Not that I’ve read that much pre Austen fiction …
This is an interesting article on how Mr Bennet has been “let off” by adaptors of the book for the screen . It’s quite critical of the Sutherland portrayal.

https://jasna.org/persuasions/on-lin...arrator%20(309).

[Petrushka]

In the famous (Andrew Davies) BBC adaptation they give the line to Mrs Bennet. One of my criticisms of that adaptation is the downgrading of Mr Bennet. He’s such a key figure in the book - key in the penetrating analysis of male behaviour and morality that makes it very far from just being a love story or comedy.

I had to study Pride and Prejudice for my English Literature O Level in 1971 and hated it. As a 16 year old it just came across to me as a girly teacup drama. It was only when I re-read it 30 years later that I was bowled over by the comedy, some of it laugh out loud funny, and especially by what you call 'the penetrating analysis of male behaviour and morality'. Jane Austen was only 21 when she wrote P & P yet her insight is remarkable for one so young.

[Ein Heldenleben]

I had to study Pride and Prejudice for my English Literature O Level in 1971 and hated it. As a 16 year old it just came across to me as a girly teacup drama. It was only when I re-read it 30 years later that I was bowled over by the comedy, some of it laugh out loud funny, and especially by what you call 'the penetrating analysis of male behaviour and morality'. Jane Austen was only 21 when she wrote P & P yet her insight is remarkable for one so young.

Yes - extraordinary in one so young. Probably not till Sons and Lovers do we see such psychological insight in one so youthful - yet Lawrence was in his mid twenties when he started that. . Interesting that they both have son/mother and daughter / father as one of the emotional cores. Write about what you know as they say …