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  • Roger Webb
    Full Member
    • Feb 2024
    • 2435

    Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
    This Vadym Kholodenko Hammerklavier is a good illustration of why you shouldn’t start a recital with one of the most demanding works in the repertoire............. .
    I've just listened to another illustration of your point.....although in this case it came off!

    The Ébène Quartet on NPO 4 from a live concert played all Beethoven, starting with Op 95 (Serioso), a favourite, and in the second half Op 18 No 2 and then No 3....a bit of a strange order wouldn't you think, but they played the Op 95 so well all was well!

    The concert finished with their being joined by the Belcea Qt to play the Mendelssohn Octet.....although the recording sounded so different, I'm not convinced it was from the same concert.



    I have their complete set recorded live at concerts 'Around the World' in my Qobuz library at the moment, and return to it regularly.


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    • smittims
      Full Member
      • Aug 2022
      • 6602

      Did anyine like Julia Wolfe's 'Climate Change oratorio'?

      I'm afraid the earth didn't move for me. But then , I suppose it's aimed more at a middlebrow Film/TV/ Game of Thrones audience . Cynical, yes, I admit, but I couldn't help thinking of the words of Berio's Sinfonia :

      'Can't stop the wars or lower the price of bread ... and tomorrow we'll read that Julia Wolfe's oratorio made tulips grow in my garden and altered the flow of the ocean currents ; we must believie it's true.'
      Last edited by smittims; 13-02-26, 07:46.

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 39566

        Originally posted by smittims View Post
        Did anyine like Julia Wolfe's 'Climate Change oratorio'?

        I'm afraid the earth didn't move for me. But then , I suppose it's aimed more at a middlebrow Film/TV/ Game of Thrones audience . Cynical, yes, I admit, but I couldn't help thinking of the words of Berio's Sinfonia :

        'Can't stop the wars or lower the price of bread ... and tomorrow we'll read that Julia Wolfe's oratorio made tulips grow in my garden and altered the flow of the ocean currents ; we must believe it's true.'


        No I didn't hear her "Oratorio" - but frankly I have heard enough of her bang on a can not to need to.

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        • Pulcinella
          Host
          • Feb 2014
          • 13152

          Listening just now to Thursday 5 February's concert, via Sounds.
          All that Sounds displays is
          Rachmaninov's Piano Concerto No. 2
          and all that appears in the Sonos display is
          Radio 3 in Concert

          Where am I supposed to find details of the pieces/performers (apart from backtracking to the programme listing for that day)?

          (Should this be on the Grumble Thread?)

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          • smittims
            Full Member
            • Aug 2022
            • 6602

            It's certaibly getting more and more slipshod. I think it's because fewer people at Radio 3 know or understand classical music. Ironically thisis happenig at a a time when there are more professional intsrumentalists on their books.

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            • Ein Heldenleben
              Full Member
              • Apr 2014
              • 8719

              Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
              Listening just now to Thursday 5 February's concert, via Sounds.
              All that Sounds displays is
              Rachmaninov's Piano Concerto No. 2
              and all that appears in the Sonos display is
              Radio 3 in Concert

              Where am I supposed to find details of the pieces/performers (apart from backtracking to the programme listing for that day)?

              (Should this be on the Grumble Thread?)
              If it’s a consolation I have an top of the range media player which doesn’t give any information either.

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              • edashtav
                Full Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 3864

                in Concert Monday 16
                Joseph Phibbs

                Cello Concerto
                Performer: Guy Johnston. Orchestra: BBC Symphony Orchestra. Conductor: Clemens Schuldt
                Beautifully written for cello and performed with flair and confidence by Guy JOHNSTON, this new work showed great technical ability and findsse by its composer, Joseph Phibbs but was hugely disappointing in its ultra conservative idiom. Echoes of earlier works were well to the fore with one passage sounding like a memory snatched from Walton’s CELLO CONCERTO
                Mel Bonis Ophélie Op.165. Very romantic. Ethereal, evanescent and all too short. Imaginative programming.

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                • Pulcinella
                  Host
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 13152

                  Did anyone listen to Thursday's concert?



                  Not content with ruining King David by setting it for choir rather than soloist, Farrington has now (imho) ruined Hymnus Paradisi too with his reduced orchestration.

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                  • silvestrione
                    Full Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1894

                    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                    Did anyone listen to Thursday's concert?



                    Not content with ruining King David by setting it for choir rather than soloist, Farrington has now (imho) ruined Hymnus Paradisi too with his reduced orchestration.
                    I listened to, and enjoyed, the first half, but when I saw that 'arr. Farrington', I skipped the Howellls!

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                    • smittims
                      Full Member
                      • Aug 2022
                      • 6602

                      I listened to the first half to give the music a fair hearing as I've criticisised these composers' music in the past. I heard nothing to vary my low opinion of it. I didn't hear the Howells as I have the Willcocks recording I can hear any time.

                      I have to say I thought Farrington's version of the Dream of Gerontius very effective. Although I know the work well, I didn't realise it was a reduced version until afterwards.

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                      • smittims
                        Full Member
                        • Aug 2022
                        • 6602

                        I urge anyone who missed it to catch upon Thursday evening's programme, which was the best thing I've heard on Radio (or TV!) for a long time.

                        Ryan Bancroft conducted the BBC National Orchestra of Wales in Anders Hilborg's Exquisite Corpse, whihc quotes Sibelius' seventh towards the end, then Alban Gerhardt played Shostakovitch's second cello concerto in a performance I'd put alongside the classic Rostropovich/Ozawa DG LP . Affer the interval we had Sibelius' Four Legends, op 22 which I thought was even better than the performance we had a few weeks ago, fine though that was.

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