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  • Andrew Slater
    Full Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 1796

    Originally posted by AuntDaisy View Post
    Andrew's extensive database might be able to help. (But I'm not sure how to specifically find Barbirolli).

    I don't really listen to Breakfast or EC, but I couldn't find many recent ones, although a decade ago they may have appeared more often...

    A quick search found this partial list:
    Breakfast 8/5/2023 26/1/2022 18/9/2022 14/11/2016 1/9/2015 18/5/2013 24/9/2011
    Essential Classics 1/5/2023 6/9/2021 29/7/2020 6/1/2016 24/11/2015 11/11/2014 17/6/2014 19/5/2014 10/2/2012 24/10/2011 15/9/2011

    BTW these were the Google searches: search1 search2
    Code:
    site:bbc.co.uk/programmes Barbirolli "Sinfonia Of London" "Breakfast"
    site:bbc.co.uk/programmes Barbirolli "Sinfonia Of London" "Essential Classics"
    There is a version of my database 'front end' which includes artists, but I haven't 'formally' announced it yet. At the moment it's only possible to search on a single artist, but searching back to about 2013 on Barbirolli then filtering for 'sinfonia of london' within the browser gives 5 results for Breakfast (not all of which match your Google search results) and 18 for Essential Classics.

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    • AuntDaisy
      Host
      • Jun 2018
      • 1716

      Originally posted by Andrew Slater View Post
      There is a version of my database 'front end' which includes artists, but I haven't 'formally' announced it yet. At the moment it's only possible to search on a single artist, but searching back to about 2013 on Barbirolli then filtering for 'sinfonia of london' within the browser gives 5 results for Breakfast (not all of which match your Google search results) and 18 for Essential Classics.
      Many thanks Andrew - that new artist search is very useful.

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      • Ein Heldenleben
        Full Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 6883

        Originally posted by Andrew Slater View Post

        There is a version of my database 'front end' which includes artists, but I haven't 'formally' announced it yet. At the moment it's only possible to search on a single artist, but searching back to about 2013 on Barbirolli then filtering for 'sinfonia of london' within the browser gives 5 results for Breakfast (not all of which match your Google search results) and 18 for Essential Classics.
        Thanks v much. Looks like 2015 - 19 Barbirolli featured a lot but apart from the Cello concerto he doesn’t get played much now on these two programmes. My theory is that producers tend to cluster round certain recordings rather than risk either delving back or trying something new unless that new recording has become flavour of the month. The Wilson / Sinfonia is in vogue definitely.

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        • Barbirollians
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 11732

          I asked Alexa to play it this lunchtime . In Piano Focus a piece of such extraordinary Einaudi like vacuity was playing - that it was like a drill of minimalist repetitive blandness and I had to turn it off and Alexa kindly then played Beethoven Piano Concerto no 5 for me - Ashkenazy/Solti - and I was able to unwind.

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          • antongould
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 8819

            Our leader in the Spectator



            Sir: In an attempt to formulate an argument as to why launching Radio 3 Unwind is not to be welcomed, David Sexton ties himself in knots (Arts, 30 November).

            He describes a nonexistent ‘pressure’ on Radio 3 to play music of a particular mood or style. On the contrary: the variety is as broad as it ever was. We recently announced a 40-part series entitled The Modernists, exploring composers ranging from Boulez to Berio to Stockhausen. We arranged a day of broadcasts across the UK to mark the start of Advent, with programmes from the Scottish Highlands, St Michael’s Mount in Cornwall and Seamus Heaney’s birthplace in Northern Ireland. And in January we will be in Auschwitz, reflecting on the 80th anniversary of the liberation of the concentration camp. None of this is the mark of a radio station seeking to embrace a ‘ghastly descent into populism’.

            There is a strange habit within a small section of the arts world of seeking to pour scorn on anything that might introduce classical music to others. The launch of Radio 3 Unwind means there is now an even greater amount of classical music on offer from the BBC – at a time when figures show more hours are being spent listening to the main Radio 3 station than ever before. I’d say that’s something to celebrate.

            Sam Jackson

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            • AuntDaisy
              Host
              • Jun 2018
              • 1716

              Originally posted by antongould View Post
              ...
              There is a strange habit within a small section of the arts world of seeking to pour scorn on anything that might introduce classical music to others. The launch of Radio 3 Unwind means there is now an even greater amount of classical music on offer from the BBC – at a time when figures show more hours are being spent listening to the main Radio 3 station than ever before. I’d say that’s something to celebrate.

              Sam Jackson
              Thanks anton.

              He forgot to add "... of a certain age..." to that final para.

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              • Ein Heldenleben
                Full Member
                • Apr 2014
                • 6883

                Originally posted by antongould View Post
                Our leader in the Spectator



                Sir: In an attempt to formulate an argument as to why launching Radio 3 Unwind is not to be welcomed, David Sexton ties himself in knots (Arts, 30 November).

                He describes a nonexistent ‘pressure’ on Radio 3 to play music of a particular mood or style. On the contrary: the variety is as broad as it ever was. We recently announced a 40-part series entitled The Modernists, exploring composers ranging from Boulez to Berio to Stockhausen. We arranged a day of broadcasts across the UK to mark the start of Advent, with programmes from the Scottish Highlands, St Michael’s Mount in Cornwall and Seamus Heaney’s birthplace in Northern Ireland. And in January we will be in Auschwitz, reflecting on the 80th anniversary of the liberation of the concentration camp. None of this is the mark of a radio station seeking to embrace a ‘ghastly descent into populism’.

                There is a strange habit within a small section of the arts world of seeking to pour scorn on anything that might introduce classical music to others. The launch of Radio 3 Unwind means there is now an even greater amount of classical music on offer from the BBC – at a time when figures show more hours are being spent listening to the main Radio 3 station than ever before. I’d say that’s something to celebrate.

                Sam Jackson
                Lord alone knows why he wants to pick a fight with people who support his station. Not a good PR move
                The “listening hours “ argument partly a function of population growth and much of the music on Radio 3 is not , by any stretch of the imagination, classical music . I wouldn’t put many of the carols played on Sunday in that category,Christmas ( they never call it that of course it’s always “the Festive Season ) has largely become an excuse to trot out over-exposed carols and saccharine Xmas music.
                There is literally no one out there wishing to “pour scorn” on attempts to introduce classical music to others, Many of us play instruments , help others learn music , work for free for music charities , sung in church choirs etc etc
                I mean really….Just what do you contribute Sam ?

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                • oddoneout
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 9250

                  On the contrary: the variety is as broad as it ever was
                  Has he looked at the daytime schedules of yore, such as the one posted recently by(I think )Aunt Daisy, to get an idea of why some of us might disagree with that statement?
                  For now I'll narrow it down to "is that why there is so little Classical content, and Baroque/early repertoire is almost non-existent? They seem to have been removed in order to accommodate the management pressure to tick equality,diversity and accessibility boxes. That doesn't broaden the music offering, it just shifts the lack of breadth(perceived, not actual, in my view) elsewhere.
                  His habit of drawing attention to a one-off, such as the Sunday trip around the UK, or a new series such as The Modernists, to me just seems to highlight the paucity overall. Time was when a new series, or indeed just topic-based series in general, happened as a standard part of the output; it was what R3 is(was) for, not a rare happening that has to be endlessly trumpeted.
                  I don't pour scorn on the idea of introducing 'classical music' to the masses(far from it) but I am critical of the ways that he approaches the matter, for several reasons.

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                  • Roslynmuse
                    Full Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 1246

                    Originally posted by AuntDaisy View Post

                    He forgot to add "... of a certain age..." to that final para.
                    I was thinking exactly the same thing...

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                    • LMcD
                      Full Member
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 8564

                      I get the impression that the Radio 3 sleeping pill is now most often trailed as 'Radio 3 Online', with 'Unwind' being mentioned only occasionally.

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30407

                        Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                        I get the impression that the Radio 3 sleeping pill is now most often trailed as 'Radio 3 Online', with 'Unwind' being mentioned only occasionally.
                        Managerial decision in view of the criticisms? A hint of ducking and diving, perhaps?
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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