Sound of Cinema (Matthew Sweet)

[LMcD]

Thanks, Aunt D. I think this supports very well something which I've been saying since for ever but which doesn't convince everyone even on this forum. It's not WHAT Radio 3 broadcasts in terms of subject content, it's WHO the programme is aimed at.

I'm not interested in cinema so don't listen to it. But who am I to say Nick should be listening to it on Radio 2 because films are "Radio 2", not Radio 3? I respect what jazz enthusiasts say about R3's jazz in the same way. I don't expect Radio 3 to be broadcasting what I'm interested in all the time. I do expect it to broadcast what I am interested in for ME, not for some other audience. I don't want to listen to presenters drafted in from R1, R2 and 6 Music - in some cases from CFM - employed to attract listeners from their former homes to R3.

You're absolutely right, and I'm pretty sure that none of what's broadcast between 0630 and 1300 (1200 on Sundays) is aimed at me. I've suggested before that young Jackson is trying to attract a range of audiences that overall add up to what he regards as an acceptable total.

[smittims]

All the same,it's shameful that Jackson is doing to R3 precisely, and worse, what he criticised Davey for doing. Davy's R3 wasn't nearly so CFM as Jackson's is .

[french frank]

All the same,it's shameful that Jackson is doing to R3 precisely, and worse, what he criticised Davey for doing. Davy's R3 wasn't nearly so CFM as Jackson's is .

Yes, but SJ was employed by CFM when he said that - he's now employed by the BBC, presumaby to do the same thing as Alan Davey: get more listeners and save money.

But my argument explains why I disagree with you that Sound of Cinema shouldn't be on R3. As presented by EB that may be so, but (apparently) as presented by MS it was fine. I cannot imagine what change could be made to FNIMN that could make it appropriate for a Radio 3 audience unless they admitted as they did c 1997 that 'we've changed the target audience' for Radio 3.

[smittims]

I suppose it depends on whether or not one believes that Radio 3 should be an 'all-day-Third Programme' as I do, or something different . To be fair to the BBC they never said it would be . But at times ,in the 1970s to '80s, it came pretty close, which is why many of us lament the changes since then.

[LMcD]

I suppose it depends on whether or not one believes that Radio 3 should be an 'all-day-Third Programme' as I do, or something different . To be fair to the BBC they never said it would be . But at times ,in the 1970s to '80s, it came pretty close, which is why many of us lament the changes since then.

It could then relentlessly promote itself as 'the home of classical music and full-length dramas'.
I don't listen to Radio 4's 'Feedback', but was told yesterday that there's constant criticism of recent changes to Radio 3, with the trailers a particular source of irritation. The only helpful suggestion I could offer my informant was to avoid the station before lunchtime.
One wonders how former listeners to the Light Programme reacted to the increasingly rapid changes when it became Radio 2. In just over a decade it lost 2 soap operas (MRs Dale's Diary and Waggoner's Walk), Woman's Hour, Any Questions and the Shipping Forecast.

[LMcD]

This afternoon 'Edith Bowman explores music for film, television and games' including 'Pick Of The Flicks' with Jamie Cullum

[Nick Armstrong]

This afternoon 'Edith Bowman explores music for film, television and games' including 'Pick Of The Flicks' with Jamie Cullum

I’ve given up on it, as after a couple there seemed no improvement in the elements I highlighted earlier in this thread which to me were disappointing/irritating.

Might try in six months or so to see if the programme’s “grown up”…

[LMcD]

I’ve given up on it, as after a couple there seemed no improvement in the elements I highlighted earlier in this thread which to me were disappointing/irritating.

Might try in six months or so to see if the programme’s “grown up”…

In a full-page article in Radio Times, Edith Bowman rejects accusations of 'dumbing down'.

[Ein Heldenleben]

In a full-page article in Radio Times, Edith Bowman rejects accusations of 'dumbing down'.

How does she manage to do that ? It’s kid’s hour stuff..

[french frank]

In a full-page article in Radio Times, Edith Bowman rejects accusations of 'dumbing down'.

Does she also say anywhere: "It's just an insult" and "No one has ever defined what it means"?

[hmvman]

There seems to be a pattern of presenters of dumbed-down programmes getting articles in RT and other media to say that the programme isn't dumbed-down....

[Pulcinella]

There seems to be a pattern of presenters of dumbed-down programmes getting articles in RT and other media to say that the programme isn't dumbed-down....

Is that because RT is itself dumbed-down?

[LMcD]

Does she also say anywhere: "It's just an insult" and "No one has ever defined what it means"?

'It's about really showing the breadth of what's out there. And that's not always necessarily something classical. It can be much more contemporary"
Future guests include Emma Thompson and Graham Norton.

[Nick Armstrong]

In a full-page article in Radio Times, Edith Bowman rejects accusations of 'dumbing down'.

To adapt the immortal words of Mandy Rice-Davies in the Old Bailey:

“Well she would, wouldn’t she?”

[smittims]

It reminds me of an article in RT many years ago attributed (with photo) to Richard Bacon,who was then a popular Tv presenter, saying that he couldn't listen to the Archers because it was so boring and it needed livening up. Shortly afterwards a airliner crashed on 'Ambridge' and crisis-stories were meat and drink for the programme for weeks .


I never believed a person like Richard Bacon was even a casual listener to the Archers . I doubt if he even wrote the article. It was the same sort of thing as getting retired newsreaders to advertise non-stick pans and double glazing. You know you can trust them to tell you the truth .