Through the Night

[Serial_Apologist]

To be fair, it is sometimes hard to tell the difference between Radio 3 and CFM in the pre-lunch schedule.
Classical Live has dropped its 'performances you won't have heard anywhere else' claim, at least while it's featuring repeats of some from Wigmore Hall lunchtime concerts, and now says it's bringing us works featured in 'live recorded' concerts.

Presumably dead live broadcasts would only be suitable for necrophiliacs!

[LMcD]

Yes, I think you're right. I've noticed a few CFM, or even Radio One-type mini-announcements creeping into TTN and Classical Live : telling us the time periodically (which assumes everyone is listening in the UK's time-zone!) and reminding us every 15 minutes or so that this is Radio 3. Also , reminding us repeatedly of what is 'coming up' 'later' or 'after this...' (cue for yet another trailer) , leaving me wanting to scream 'then why the hell don't you play it NOW! , and more less-polite comments.

I expect this is the Jackson style bedding in. We can probably expect worse.

To be fair, it is sometimes hard to tell the difference between Radio 3 and CFM in the pre-lunch schedule.
Classical Live has dropped its 'performances you won't have heard anywhere else' claim, at least while it's featuring repeats of some from Wigmore Hall lunchtime concerts, and now says it's bringing us works featured in 'live recorded' concerts.

[Serial_Apologist]

It's bad enough to be reminded of R3 Unwind before the evening concert (for those might find it a bit too daunting).
I've never succumbed.
Is its theme tune 'The snowflakes are dancing'? (Tomita, of course!)

Pure as the driven slush!

[Pulcinella]

Radio 4 now offers banal simpering plugs for Radio 3 before its news announcements, seducing would-be ignorant (in the literal sense) listeners into soporific Radio 3 nirvana.

It's bad enough to be reminded of R3 Unwind before the evening concert (for those might find it a bit too daunting).
I've never succumbed.
Is its theme tune 'The snowflakes are dancing'? (Tomita, of course!)

[Serial_Apologist]

Yes, I think you're right. I've noticed a few CFM, or even Radio One-type mini-announcements creeping into TTN and Classical Live : telling us the time periodically (which assumes everyone is listening in the UK's time-zone!) and reminding us every 15 minutes or so that this is Radio 3. Also , reminding us repeatedly of what is 'coming up' 'later' or 'after this...' (cue for yet another trailer) , leaving me wanting to scream 'then why the hell don't you play it NOW! , and more less-polite comments.

I expect this is the Jackson style bedding in. We can probably expect worse.

Radio 4 now offers banal simpering plugs for Radio 3 before its news announcements, seducing would-be ignorant (in the literal sense) listeners into soporific Radio 3 nirvana.

[smittims]

Yes, I think you're right. I've noticed a few CFM, or even Radio One-type mini-announcements creeping into TTN and Classical Live : telling us the time periodically (which assumes everyone is listening in the UK's time-zone!) and reminding us every 15 minutes or so that this is Radio 3. Also , reminding us repeatedly of what is 'coming up' 'later' or 'after this...' (cue for yet another trailer) , leaving me wanting to scream 'then why the hell don't you play it NOW! , and more less-polite comments.

I expect this is the Jackson style bedding in. We can probably expect worse.

[kernelbogey]

There's a new (to me) Thing in the last hour of TTN - the presenter saying 'Soon we'll be moving into Breakfast', or words to that effect. I have heard that from John Shea and one other. I assume this is a strategy imposed From On High to keep obedient listeners tuned in to The Home of Classical Music. (I occasionally listen to some of the last hour of TTN, and then drift into Breakfast - all dependant on how sleep has gone in the previous few hours. I rarely last beyond the 0700 News.) For some time now the presenters have 'said their goodbye' before the last piece in the programme, leaving a smooth segue to the Breakfast presenter doing the back-announcement.

[LMcD]

According to the website Bruckner's Eighth was his last symphony. What a pity; I was so hoping he'd write a NInth.

Perhaps - like his 9th - the website entry is incomplete I suppose you could ask AI to complete one or the other.

[smittims]

According to the website Bruckner's Eighth was his last symphony. What a pity; I was so hoping he'd write a NInth.

[AuntDaisy]

what happened to TTN 'I saw eternity' that the first 15mins replaced - still missing from the online version.

The latest version of Sunday's TTN is now 5 hours 41mins long and seems to have just had the technical difficulties & filler removed.
I wonder if we'll ever get the missing start back?

[kernelbogey]

Beethoven 6 on 25 November at 0117: I chanced on this and was surprised to find an (to me) unusually fast tempo in I and (I think) II that worked for me. Conductor was Kent Nagano [and The German Symphony Orchestra, Berlin].

EDIT: Re-listening now, there is nothing very exceptional about the tempi (although it is very beautifully played). I put the above original comments down to sleep deprivation and consequent mild hallucination! Possibly the version on CD that I often listen to at night is correspondingly slow in those movements: can't put my hand on it but I think it's the Kleiber.

[kernelbogey]

It's available to listen to on Notturno via Swedish radio, starts ~2 hours in.

If it helps, here's a link to the audio - it might play in your Browser. Bach's "Komm, Jesu, komm" starts ~2:01:00 in (after the tolling bell).
https://lyssna-cdn.sr.se/ljudit/p2_m...3_0000_192.m4a

'Komm, Jesu, komm: der BBC Musikkomputer ist kaput!.'

[Nick Armstrong]

what happened to TTN 'I saw eternity' that the first 15mins replaced - still missing from the online version.

Worth persevering: the penultimate item is an excellent performance of possibly the most underrated piece by Poulenc, Les Animaux Modèles, under Georges Prêtre - preceded by Berwald’s delectable Septet

[AuntDaisy]

what happened to TTN 'I saw eternity' that the first 15mins replaced - still missing from the online version.

It's available to listen to on Notturno via Swedish radio, starts ~2 hours in.

If it helps, here's a link to the audio - it might play in your Browser. Bach's "Komm, Jesu, komm" starts ~2:01:00 in (after the tolling bell).

https://lyssna-cdn.sr.se/ljudit/p2_musik/notturno/2025/11/notturno_20251123_0000_192.m4a

[AuntDaisy]

what happened to TTN 'I saw eternity' that the first 15mins replaced - still missing from the online version.

Just checked the off-air & Sounds. Similar problem to September 2024's TTN post #1145.

"Left channel..." about 2 minutes silence and finally Petroc announced "This is BBC Radio 3, we're having some problems which are preventing us from continuing with our scheduled programmes at the moment. We hope to restore normal service as soon as possible. But, in the mean time, here is a sequence of music...".

And poor John Shea sounding as if he'd just rushed over...
"My apologies for the technical problems that we've been having in bringing you BBC Radio Through the Night. I'm told that we can, now, join the programme, presented by me, John Shea, in recorded form I should explain, and here is Tenebrae conducted by Nigel Short with JS Bach's motet Jesu, meine Freunde...."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002mc1b

Update: I've reported the fault via this overly convoluted webpage.