BaL 12.04.25 - Brahms: String sextet 1 in B flat, Op 18

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  • ostuni
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    • Nov 2010
    • 567

    #31
    Originally posted by Alison View Post
    Yes well done Tazza, delightful manner and infectious enthusiasm. Good to hear someone other than Katy Hamilton on Brahms.
    Is Paul Watkins still around?
    Yes, but based in the USA these days. He was the cellist of the Emerson Quartet from 2013 until the group retired from performing a decade later; teaches at Yale; conducts a fair bit.

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    • richardfinegold
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      • Sep 2012
      • 8518

      #32
      Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
      ASMF Chamber Players or the Marlboro pickup group that featured Alexander Schneider and the embryonic Guarneri Quartet
      so in the 'Boy, is my memory shot' department, I had thought that the Marlboro recording, which I don't think I've heard since my lps died 40 years ago, was only Op.36

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      • smittims
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        • Aug 2022
        • 6425

        #33
        Glad to hear Paul Watkins is still conducting. I heard him do one of the best VW5's I've ever heard , some years ago. I hope we'll hear him again on R3.

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        • french frank
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          • Feb 2007
          • 32396

          #34
          Originally posted by LMcD View Post

          We no longer have an old-style record shop, but have somehow ended up with two Vinyl Stores in adjacent premises in a side-street!
          We still have an HMV store but, judging from the window display, they only sell T-shirts and sweatshirts
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • LMcD
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            • Sep 2017
            • 10743

            #35
            Originally posted by french frank View Post

            We still have an HMV store but, judging from the window display, they only sell T-shirts and sweatshirts
            Just 'covers' then!

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            • Wolfram
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              • Jul 2019
              • 342

              #36
              I’m a little perplexed by the rejection of the Leipziger Streichquartett version on the grounds of sound quality as MDG are well known for their high quality audiophile recordings. Sounds fine to me.

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              • HighlandDougie
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                • Nov 2010
                • 3386

                #37
                Having returned to the but 'n ben in Scotland, I'm delighted to have found in the small pile of post that the Alpha box of the Belcea recordings (which was seriously cheap) includes the Brahms sextets. No need to go any further?

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                • Nick Armstrong
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26867

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                  I listened .Nash ensemble came top with I think the Capuchons a close second.
                  No, second came the Belcea recording - the Capuçons & friends were in third spot.

                  Good BAL, I’ve had the Raphael version for years, keen to hear the Nash & Belcea performances now
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • Barbirollians
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12699

                    #39
                    I have the Raphael and the Menuhin and friends . Can’t imagine needing more .

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                    • silvestrione
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                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1887

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                      I have the Raphael and the Menuhin and friends . Can’t imagine needing more .
                      The Raphaels were adjudged to be 'adagio' rather than 'andante moderato' in the second movement, I think.

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                      • Barbirollians
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12699

                        #41
                        Originally posted by silvestrione View Post

                        The Raphaels were adjudged to be 'adagio' rather than 'andante moderato' in the second movement, I think.
                        Might be why I like it !

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                        • pastoralguy
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 8465

                          #42
                          This is one of my absolute favourite works. My introduction to it was a CfP Lp played by the Principals of The London Philharmonic Orchestra led by the great Rodney Friend. It’s a little rough and ready round the edges and was obviously recorded with minimal studio time but I still love it and was pleased when it was released on cd a few years ago. I don’t think it would stand up to the scrutiny of a BaL when compared to the virtuoso players chosen but it was MY introduction to a wonderful piece.

                          The second movement was used as the accompanying music to a BBC Radio play in 1977 and I honestly thought it had been specially composed for the series. It was only later when I heard it on a BBC broadcast that I had one of those ‘Ah… So THAT’S what it is!’

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                          • smittims
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                            • Aug 2022
                            • 6425

                            #43
                            The second movement also exists in a piano arrangement known as 'Theme and Variations in D minor',in which form it gets occasional broadcasts.

                            The first movement was danced by Ballet Rambert about 40 yeas ago in a tribute to Dame Marie Rambert, based on a a sepia photo of her as a girl. I think it was called 'Girl in a brown silk dress'.

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                            • Barbirollians
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12699

                              #44
                              I am much more taken with Brahms chamber music involving the piano and the clarinet quintet than his string only works .

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                              • richardfinegold
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                                • Sep 2012
                                • 8518

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                                I am much more taken with Brahms chamber music involving the piano and the clarinet quintet than his string only works .
                                It helps to view them as proto symphonies, much like Mozart K.136 et al. The works with Piano, Horn, and Clarinet are more chamber like , with contrast in instrumental timbres being accentuated

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