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  • vinteuil
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    • Nov 2010
    • 13927

    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
    This 2CD Tahra set ( deleted ) but copies were available on Amazon relatively cheaply is dynamite .

    Not only a Harold in Italy to knock your socks off Paganini might have played it had he heard Monteux conduct it but a 1960 Dvorak CC with Rostropovich - did I really need another Rostropovich live account of this ? Oh yes I did - it’s absolutely magical . Monteux providing the extra magic .
    ... this sounds exciting - but what are you referring to???

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    • richardfinegold
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      • Sep 2012
      • 8309

      It’s very unusual to find any Monteux Brahms Symphony performance that is not the Second

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      • Ian Thumwood
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        • Dec 2010
        • 4684

        Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
        Schubert. Piano Trio No.2. (With first version of the Finale).

        Florestan Trio. Hyperion label.

        Exquisite playing, as one would expect.

        Having just finished my Brendel 114 cd exploration, I’m surprised that he didn’t record these works.
        I am not aware of this recording but the 2 Florestan Haydn are brilliant, especially volume 2. Not really familiar with Schubert but have grim memory having to learn Hedge Roses on piano as a nipper so tend to avoid. I am coming around to the idea Haydn is perhaps the most underrated composer of his time. On a par with Syzmanowski for a composer who should be better loved. I think Haydn would have loved jazz.

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        • pastoralguy
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          • Nov 2010
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          Originally posted by Ian Thumwood View Post

          I am not aware of this recording but the 2 Florestan Haydn are brilliant, especially volume 2. Not really familiar with Schubert but have grim memory having to learn Hedge Roses on piano as a nipper so tend to avoid. I am coming around to the idea Haydn is perhaps the most underrated composer of his time. On a par with Syzmanowski for a composer who should be better loved. I think Haydn would have loved jazz.
          A friend of mine reckoned that Haydn and Liszt were the most underrated composers in the canon. Having listened to the Brendel Big Box I would not disagree. Oddly enough, I went to a concert given by Andras Schiff at the Edinburgh Festival a couple of years ago where the programme wasn’t announced. He played a Haydn Sonata and introduced it saying that he too thought that Haydn was an underrated composer BUT not in Britain!

          I’ve twice listened to the Haydn Symphonies from No. 1 to 104 and have enjoyed them all. It’s wonderful music if not quite, in my extremely humble opinion, plumbing the depths that Mozart does. There is so much wonderful Haydn including the Piano Trios, String Quartets and the Piano Sonatas. I do have the Baryton Trios on cd but I’ve not made the effort - yet!

          The Florestan Trio was a marvellous group and their recorded legacy is outstanding and well worth exploring. Happy listening!

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          • Ian Thumwood
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            • Dec 2010
            • 4684

            Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post

            A friend of mine reckoned that Haydn and Liszt were the most underrated composers in the canon. Having listened to the Brendel Big Box I would not disagree. Oddly enough, I went to a concert given by Andras Schiff at the Edinburgh Festival a couple of years ago where the programme wasn’t announced. He played a Haydn Sonata and introduced it saying that he too thought that Haydn was an underrated composer BUT not in Britain!

            I’ve twice listened to the Haydn Symphonies from No. 1 to 104 and have enjoyed them all. It’s wonderful music if not quite, in my extremely humble opinion, plumbing the depths that Mozart does. There is so much wonderful Haydn including the Piano Trios, String Quartets and the Piano Sonatas. I do have the Baryton Trios on cd but I’ve not made the effort - yet!

            The Florestan Trio was a marvellous group and their recorded legacy is outstanding and well worth exploring. Happy listening!
            Cheers

            I was told that a huge proportion of Haydn's music had not been recorded until relatively recently and was little performed since Haydn's time. I cannot remember the percentage but I was shocked by it.

            Fun to listen to and fun to play.

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            • pastoralguy
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              • Nov 2010
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              Tchaikovsky. Romeo and Juliet Overture. 1812 Overture. Capriccio Italian and Marche Slave.

              The Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra conducted by Bernard Haitink.

              Marvellous playing and restrained conducting from Maestro Haitink. I know I bang about the price of charity shop CDs but this was 20p! I can remember the Lp being nearly a fiver in 1977 when I started purchasing classical music and it’s amazing to me that such riches are available at such small sums of money.

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              • Barbirollians
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                • Nov 2010
                • 12551

                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

                ... this sounds exciting - but what are you referring to???

                Pierre Monteux live with the Concertgebouw .

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                • vinteuil
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 13927

                  Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post

                  Pierre Monteux live with the Concertgebouw .
                  ,,, this one?



                  .

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                  • pastoralguy
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 8275

                    Bruch. Piano Trio in c moll. Op.5.

                    Göbel Trio, Berlin. Recorded 1985. Thorofon label.

                    I don’t know this work at all. Pleasant if not particularly distinguished, imho.

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                    • cloughie
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                      • Dec 2011
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                      Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                      It’s very unusual to find any Monteux Brahms Symphony performance that is not the Second
                      There is a Sym 3 with the BBC NorthernSO (now BBCPO) on the BBC label.
                      BBCL40582

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                      • Barbirollians
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12551

                        Yep

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                        • richardfinegold
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                          • Sep 2012
                          • 8309



                          I was unable to find the Monteux Brahms 1. I think that this Brahms 3 is better known. Do people know of it? Is it in mono?

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                          • smittims
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                            • Aug 2022
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                            I don't know of it but I did hear a Debussy 'Fetes' from a concert where George Hurst, then their conductor and a former Monteux pupil , persuaded him to come and conduct them. He really made them sit up. I've never heard the trumpets so vital .

                            I have an ICA CLassics 4-CD set (ICAC 5150 ) in which Monteux conducts Brahms 3 with the Boston Symphony, Edinburgh Festival 1956, and the Double concerto from the Royal Festival Hall in 1955 with Francescatti, Fournier and the Royal Philharmonic. These are of course in Mono.

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                            • Barbirollians
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12551

                              Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                              https://ebay.us/m/3gs0JA

                              I was unable to find the Monteux Brahms 1. I think that this Brahms 3 is better known. Do people know of it? Is it in mono?
                              Its in that 2 CD set above .

                              Yes I have this Monteux 3 - there is also one in the Richard Itter collection Monteux box on ICA Classics. Like the BBC Legends one I dont think they are the same performance ,

                              There is apparently a Brahms 4 on You Tube .

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                              • Pulcinella
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                                • Feb 2014
                                • 12406

                                Bliss
                                Cello concerto
                                Guy Johnson
                                RLPO
                                Andrew Manze

                                Currently only available as a download, and lasting only 24 minutes, but hopefully might end up as part of an extended release later.

                                Bliss: Cello Concerto, F. 120. Onyx: ONYXX4269. Buy download online. Guy Johnston (cello) Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra, Andrew Manze


                                The work was discussed a fair bit in the interval talk with Julian Lloyd Webber in the recent Prom featuring Bliss' Beatitudes.
                                Commissioned for Rostropovich by Britten (as a sort of reconciliation with Bliss for the fiasco over the War Requiem and The Beatitudes), it was first performed at Aldeburgh in 1970, conducted by Britten.
                                Lloyd Webber gave the first London performance in 1972, with the Chanticleer Orchestra conducted by Ruth Gibbs.

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