What Classical Music Are You listening to Now? IV

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  • richardfinegold
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    • Sep 2012
    • 8477

    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post

    Its in that 2 CD set above .

    Yes I have this Monteux 3 - there is also one in the Richard Itter collection Monteux box on ICA Classics. Like the BBC Legends one I dont think they are the same performance ,

    There is apparently a Brahms 4 on You Tube .
    Yes, I couldn’t find that 2 CD set on eBay or Amazon.

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    • teamsaint
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 25519

      Parry Symphony #5
      LPO/ Boult
      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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      • smittims
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        • Aug 2022
        • 6293

        I think that was Boult's last recording, an appropriate note on which to bow out (1978). I've heard that they tried out their fledgling digital equipment at one of the sessions, significant for a conductor whose discography begins way back in the acoustic era with a sprighty selection from La Boutique Fantasque, the initial run of which the young Boult shared with Ernest Ansermet almost sixty years earlier .

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        • Pulcinella
          Host
          • Feb 2014
          • 12891

          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
          Parry Symphony #5
          LPO/ Boult
          Originally posted by smittims View Post
          I think that was Boult's last recording, an appropriate note on which to bow out (1978). I've heard that they tried out their fledgling digital equipment at one of the sessions, significant for a conductor whose discography begins way back in the acoustic era with a sprighty selection from La Boutique Fantasque, the initial run of which the young Boult shared with Ernest Ansermet almost sixty years earlier .
          Yes it was.
          The recording is the subject of Classics reconsidered, in October's Gramophone (which might be what inspired ts to give it a spin).

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          • smittims
            Full Member
            • Aug 2022
            • 6293

            BRAHMS

            QUINTET IN B MINOR

            for clarinet and strings

            THE FINE ARTS QUARTET
            of the American Broadcasting Company
            REGINALD KELL (Clarinet).


            That is the title printed on the pale blue sleeve of theBrunswick Lp . Nowadays I think the clarinettist is usually mentioned first as if he were a 'soloist'. Not here: it's very much a joint effort . A lovely performance all round.

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            • Ian Thumwood
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 4789

              I have been listening to Nana Vascocelos ' "Saudades" recording which is effectively a selection of recordings for Brazilian percussion with strings directed by Mladen Gutesha. There is also a track that features Egberto Gismonti's guitar and Vasconcelos also uses his wordless voice to add colour.

              I suppose that could comparisons with Villa Lobos are obvious although I think this record is heavy with more ethnic/ native influences. The disc gets better and better with each listen and is a bit different from the Dua Vozes disc which is an exceptional duet which is like musical alchemy and one of the finest ECM discs. I love Gismonti (another pupil of Boulanger) who is a virtuoso on acoustic guitar and piano but I always feel Vasconcelos was a wild card...utterly compelling.

              I am not sure where this music should be pigeon holed. Gismonti wrote the strident and dissonant string arrangements yet the use of percussion and voice is wholly original and alien to Western classical music.

              Curious to see if anyone else is familiar with this record whose existence I was unaware of until a month ago. Not aware of percussion instruments like the berimbau being used in this context. I think Roger will love this.



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              • Petrushka
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                • Nov 2010
                • 13155

                Tchaikovsky: Symphony No 6 'Pathetique'
                Wiener Philharmoniker
                Herbert von Karajan

                Recorded on November 4, 5 & 8 1948
                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                • gradus
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 5870

                  A new and rather magical recording of the complete Mother Goose ballet by the French National Orchestra under Macelaru. Very much in the Monteux mould.

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                  • Stanfordian
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 9569

                    Frank Bridge
                    Piano Quintet
                    Three Sketches for piano: April; Rosemary; Valse Capricieuse
                    Phantasie in F minor for string quartet
                    Pensiero for viola & piano
                    Allegro Appassionato for viola & piano
                    Violin Sonata (completed by Paul Hindmarsh)
                    Spring Song, for cello & piano
                    London Bridge Ensemble
                    Recorded 2009 Wyastone Concert Hall, Monmouth
                    Dutton Epoch, CD

                    Britten – ‘Sacred Choral music’
                    Rejoice in the Lamb
                    Hymn to St. Cecilia
                    Missa Brevis & other choral works
                    Iain Farrington (organ)
                    Choir of St. John's College, Cambridge / Christopher Robinson
                    Recorded 1999, Cambridge
                    Naxos, CD

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                    • smittims
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                      • Aug 2022
                      • 6293

                      For me, Petrushka, Herbert was the most satisfying interpreter of Tchaik 6. I have a nice playable copy of 33CX 1026 (the recording you mention) but I think his best one was the 1971 EMI recording , largely for the third movement, which I think is more difficult to bring off perfectly than many think. He keeps control until the end then suddenly lets it rip in one of those moments that lifts you out of your seat.

                      There have of course been so many fine interpretations: Cantelli and Kletzki paticularly outstanding for me.

                      Yesterday evening I was listening to some early Glenn Gould from Canadian radio tapes and acetates released on CD in a 'FabFour' box. They reveal why so many who heard him then were enthralled . One of them may be his first performance of the Goldberg Variations,a year before his famous CBS LP. And there's a Berg Sonata, which I don't think he recorded commercially.

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                      • cloughie
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22721

                        Originally posted by smittims View Post
                        For me, Petrushka, Herbert was the most satisfying interpreter of Tchaik 6. I have a nice playable copy of 33CX 1026 (the recording you mention) but I think his best one was the 1971 EMI recording , largely for the third movement, which I think is more difficult to bring off perfectly than many think. He keeps control until the end then suddenly lets it rip in one of those moments that lifts you out of your seat.

                        There have of course been so many fine interpretations: Cantelli and Kletzki paticularly outstanding for me.

                        Yesterday evening I was listening to some early Glenn Gould from Canadian radio tapes and acetates released on CD in a 'FabFour' box. They reveal why so many who heard him then were enthralled . One of them may be his first performance of the Goldberg Variations,a year before his famous CBS LP. And there's a Berg Sonata, which I don't think he recorded commercially.
                        Indeed a very rich field Kletzki (HMV Concert Classics XLP/SXLP20027) still shines through for me. At the time I became acquainted with the work the Reiner on Victrola. Two others interesting for their idiosyncrasies of tempi in places were VPO/Martinon and PO/Silvestri but a performance by the Halle and Barbirolli at Sheffield City Hall on a very windy evening was the most atmospheric performance I have experienced - the wind could be heard through the vents in the quiet passages, particularly the finale.

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                        • Petrushka
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 13155

                          Originally posted by smittims View Post
                          For me, Petrushka, Herbert was the most satisfying interpreter of Tchaik 6. I have a nice playable copy of 33CX 1026 (the recording you mention) but I think his best one was the 1971 EMI recording , largely for the third movement, which I think is more difficult to bring off perfectly than many think. He keeps control until the end then suddenly lets it rip in one of those moments that lifts you out of your seat.

                          There have of course been so many fine interpretations: Cantelli and Kletzki paticularly outstanding for me
                          I'm on a bit of a 'Pathetique-fest' at the moment following last week's VPO Prom and listened to Karajan's 1956 recording with the Philharmonia last night. Of the two, I prefer the 1948. The Karajan 1971 was my very first Pathetique but I found that the LP sound was a touch opaque. Karajan certainly had an affinity with this piece recording it, I think, 7 times. I have them all anyway with my favourite being the 1964 on DG, a version criticised for over prominent timpani, possibly the reason why I like it! I've an insane number of other versions on my shelves, too.
                          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                          • richardfinegold
                            Full Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 8477

                            My only HvK Pathetique is a BluRay Audio set of all the Tchaikovsky Symponies with the BPO. I don't know the recording date as he was won't to re record basic repetoire every decade or so but there is nothing opaque about the recording. I have many Pathetiques on my shelves but the most recently played was the early stereo Monteux/Boston. Monteux had a great way with it, as the VPO concert performance and a few other mono efforts that have surfaced. Muti/Philharmonia is another favorite, more urgent than the two times I heard RM conduct it live. My personal favorite is Furtwangler,Berlin a relatively rare studio recording by him. If only it had more modern sound, but the current latest restorations are very good. The one famous version that I can't abide is Mravinsky, which has always sounded rushed, hectic, and not all that well recorded to boot, despite its legendary status as an audiophile favorite.
                            Last edited by richardfinegold; 17-09-25, 10:28.

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                            • smittims
                              Full Member
                              • Aug 2022
                              • 6293

                              I agree the Monteux is another classic. the Furtwangler (1938) has always been regarded as a landmark. It was the first work of any length (apart from Beethoven's fifth) that he agreed to record , as he disliked the 78 medium with its side-breaks . I came to know the work through that recording and it was essential listening for me.

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                              • Petrushka
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 13155

                                Originally posted by smittims View Post
                                I agree the Monteux is another classic. the Furtwangler (1938) has always been regarded as a landmark. It was the first work of any length (apart from Beethoven's fifth) that he agreed to record , as he disliked the 78 medium with its side-breaks . I came to know the work through that recording and it was essential listening for me.
                                It's included in the Furtwängler boxed set of complete recordings on Warner.
                                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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