What Classical Music Are You listening to Now? IV

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  • vinteuil
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    • Nov 2010
    • 14002

    Originally posted by smittims View Post
    oliver, I meant that the aeroplane is audible on the 1954 recording. It's well-known that Dakotas were flying over Berlin at that date, but not over Lammermoor at the time the drama is set.
    ... yes, in 1707 in Scotland they would have been Mackotas

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    • smittims
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      • Aug 2022
      • 6080

      reminds me of a Radio Times article commemorating an aviator who flew round the word in an 'Angus Fairchild', presumably the Scots-manufactured version of the Fairchild Argus.

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      • Barbirollians
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        • Nov 2010
        • 12603

        Debussy La Mer BBCSO/Toscanini - a recording that never pales.

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        • pastoralguy
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          • Nov 2010
          • 8327

          Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
          Debussy La Mer BBCSO/Toscanini - a recording that never pales.
          A local charity shop has that very cd for a pound. It’s been there for a bit so I’ll pop in and pick it up tomorrow. ( Of course it’ll be snaffled!)

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          • oliver sudden
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            • Feb 2024
            • 1256

            Originally posted by smittims View Post
            oliver, I meant that the aeroplane is audible on the 1954 recording. It's well-known that Dakotas were flying over Berlin at that date, but not over Lammermoor at the time the drama is set.
            Fair enough. But does the Dakota have a particularly distinctive audible signature? And/or do you have particular experience in the identification of aeroplanes by sound alone? I feel as though there might be an interesting story here!

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            • Petrushka
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              • Nov 2010
              • 13078

              Haydn: Symphony No 96 (Miracle)
              Strauss: Eine Alpensinfonie

              Wiener Philharmoniker
              André Previn

              I've not heard this Alpensinfonie for years and it's a very impressive recording and performance that has slipped under the radar somewhat.
              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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              • Barbirollians
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                • Nov 2010
                • 12603

                Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post

                A local charity shop has that very cd for a pound. It’s been there for a bit so I’ll pop in and pick it up tomorrow. ( Of course it’ll be snaffled!)
                Is it the coupling with the Enigma on EMI References ? I know the Enigma is more controversial but it’s thrilling and what a Nimrod truly a tribute to a best friend and not a funeral March.

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                • pastoralguy
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 8327

                  Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post

                  Is it the coupling with the Enigma on EMI References ? I know the Enigma is more controversial but it’s thrilling and what a Nimrod truly a tribute to a best friend and not a funeral March.
                  I’m not sure but if I find out tomorrow I’ll let you know.

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                  • Barbirollians
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12603

                    Actually , the EMI References coupling was with Wagner extracts ( that are fabulous) and a GROC with Elgar . Either well worth getting.

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                    • smittims
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                      • Aug 2022
                      • 6080

                      Yes, oliver. Between 1956 and 1959 I lived under the flight path of Manchester Airport (we called it 'Ringway' in those days). Dakotas and Avro 19s were the most common airliners droning overhead . The largest were the Vickers Viscount , a very different sound as it was a turboprop (the first, in fact) and too loud for my sensitive ears . Even today,the sound of a Pratt and Whitney double wasp engine has a sort of 'Proust/Madeleine' effect on me.

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                      • Pulcinella
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                        • Feb 2014
                        • 12622

                        Beethoven Symphony 5
                        Brahms Symphony 2
                        Philharmonia/Karajan

                        A free sampler-type giveaway from Gramophone in May 2012 that I stumbled across on the shelves while looking for something else!

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                        • Petrushka
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 13078

                          Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                          Beethoven Symphony 5
                          Brahms Symphony 2
                          Philharmonia/Karajan

                          A free sampler-type giveaway from Gramophone in May 2012 that I stumbled across on the shelves while looking for something else!
                          My first thought was that I don't remember that but quickly realised that it must have been when I ceased buying Gramophone for a few years. In any case, I have those recordings in the Warner Official Remastered Edition.
                          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                          • richardfinegold
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                            • Sep 2012
                            • 8381

                            I knew a horn player who said the most terrifying piece for him was the Brahms Second PC, with that long exposed horn solo at the beginning. He dreaded waiting for his cue, having the audience be silent and he is the only one playing. I imagine that the Sibelius First Symphony must be the equivalent for clarinets

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                            • Petrushka
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 13078

                              Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                              I knew a horn player who said the most terrifying piece for him was the Brahms Second PC, with that long exposed horn solo at the beginning. He dreaded waiting for his cue, having the audience be silent and he is the only one playing. I imagine that the Sibelius First Symphony must be the equivalent for clarinets
                              Our old friend Hornspieler used to call them 'bumclenchers' if I remember correctly. One of his bumclenchers that I recall was in the second movement of the Beethoven Symphony No 2. Even as a non-player and listening on CD, I can sense that the opening of the Weber Oberon Overture must require nerves of steel.
                              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                              • oliver sudden
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                                • Feb 2024
                                • 1256

                                Originally posted by smittims View Post
                                Yes, oliver. Between 1956 and 1959 I lived under the flight path of Manchester Airport (we called it 'Ringway' in those days). Dakotas and Avro 19s were the most common airliners droning overhead . The largest were the Vickers Viscount , a very different sound as it was a turboprop (the first, in fact) and too loud for my sensitive ears . Even today,the sound of a Pratt and Whitney double wasp engine has a sort of 'Proust/Madeleine' effect on me.
                                Exactly the sort of thing I was hoping for.

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