Jenkins, Karl

Collapse

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    Jenkins, Karl

    Whilst driving home front the Midlands yesterday PM I came upon the BBCNOW concert recording of The Armed Man of Karl Jenkins. I did not know about this work [the old L'Homme Arme we came cross in Missa Papae Marcelli] and had not heard any of his music before. However I did know that he was classically trained under Hodinnott and had been a rock musician in Soft Machine all those years ago. I have to admit a certain prejudice when "Rock" people move into "classical" terrain!! My problem I know, and I know that he's got musical talent and technical skills but what I think I'm missing is the inspiration that marks out somene special?

    As the piece progressed I was minded of War Requiem of course [ and even Haydn In Tempore Belli, but that's of a different scale and context] in its unusual layout. It's a substantial piece, descriptive of martial imagery and sonically impressive in parts but somehow it didn't seem to gel or culminate. Not in the same league as WR. Perhaps it was because I had to concentrate on driving and listening in cars isn't the most satisfying sonic experience.

    Anyway what do others, particularly those musicians among you, think of his music and this piece in particular? I've ordered the CD to hear it again and give it time to tell.

    Whilst we're at it are there any Rock types that have made a successful transition into the Classical domain without sounding too much like film music composers. Some recommended works would be good.

    #2
    Hello Gordon

    Great that you have posted this. I attended a concert of this piece on Armistice Day, given by a local Anglo-French 'chorale' - amateur, but with a professional music director, and many members from a professional musical background. The standard was amazing, with instrumental accompaniment.

    The concert was given in the church of a village just 40 minutes drive away.

    I, and many members of the packed church, were extremely moved by it. The 'main' piece was preceded by four short choral works by Mozart (Ave verum) Saint-Saens, Faure and Berlioz.

    The Armed Man is for me a wonderful work, but certainly not everybody's cup of tea, I'm sure. Then there was 'after concert wine and nibbles' in the vestibule of the church; well, it is France! A beautiful and quite emotional evening, actually...

    Sorry for digressing wildly, but I had to tell the little story! I was chatting to one member of the choir a few weeks ago, and discovered that apparently the concert had been professionally recorded, and they are looking for the best way to produce a limited 'print-run' of CDs - this is great, I thought. I'll be first in the line to buy a copy eventually.....

    Comment


      #3
      I find the work quite OK to listen to, but rather tedious to sing in.

      Comment


        #4
        technically OK(-ish), but nothing of his music sofar has convinced me to look forward to other works of his, I'm afraid.

        Comment


          #5
          "it's 'cos 'e is Welsh, innit"

          Comment


            #6
            Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
            "it's 'cos 'e is Welsh, innit"
            You mean on the same principle as Dr Johnson's dog?

            Comment


              #7
              .

              Comment


                #8
                Originally posted by Don Petter View Post
                You mean on the same principle as Dr Johnson's dog?
                woof!

                Comment


                  #9
                  Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                  woof!
                  When setting eyes on the thread title I did momentarily wonder to which Welsh K Jenkins it might refer until I began to read the posts to it but I remain less than convinced that there's so very much difference, really...

                  Comment


                    #10
                    What raises a (wry) smile is that yesterday someone posted on R3's Fb page: "I am listening spell bound to Karl Jenkins's The Armed Man, A mass for Peace. I have never heard this work before. Very moving."

                    Sure sign that these are Radio 3 listeners - it's been a top favourite at CFM for years ...

                    "It was, we’re rather proud to say, given its premiere at a Classic FM live concert in the autumn of 2000 at London’s Royal Albert hall. A year later, the work entered the Classic FM Hall of Fame – and, over the next few years, it climbed rapidly into the Top Ten, where it’s remained as the nation’s favourite piece of contemporary music."

                    Where CFM leads ...
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

                    Comment


                      #11
                      Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                      When setting eyes on the thread title I did momentarily wonder to which Welsh K Jenkins it might refer until I began to read the posts to it but I remain less than convinced that there's so very much difference, really...
                      Quite.

                      Comment


                        #12
                        Originally posted by Mary Chambers View Post
                        Quite.
                        I did hope that the thread would be about John Jenkins, the composer of sublime viol music...
                        Ah well....

                        I have played the French horn in several performances of KJ's 'Armed Man' Mass and have noted that it does indeed seem to have a powerfully emotional effect on its audiences.

                        Comment


                          #13
                          I did go to a performance of it once, because a friend was in it. I thought it was feeble stuff, I'm afraid.

                          Comment


                            #14
                            Originally posted by Tony View Post
                            I did hope that the thread would be about John Jenkins, the composer of sublime viol music...
                            Ah well....

                            I have played the French horn in several performances of KJ's 'Armed Man' Mass and have noted that it does indeed seem to have a powerfully emotional effect on its audiences.
                            Emotional or sentimental?

                            Comment


                              #15
                              Non.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X