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For the Eighth, you just have to be there at a great occasion, i think, which this certainly was. I queued all afternoon, for the Gallery, and was rewarded with a place on the rail, so at least I could see! During the afternoon, after the rehearsal, Rattle wandered down the other side of the road, and one of the young players came to talk to a friend just ahead of me. 'He just stares at you like this, and you have to play your best for him...' he said of Rattle. i think the Guardian reviewer said something lovely and very true, that at the end, the sound filling the hall was 'like something you could bathe in', or similar, the idea of just allowing it to flow over you. There were brass players placed on several levels. Do I now watch the TV version, or keep to my memories? Tricky.Originally posted by kernelbogey View PostComment
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Very much agree. And for once, the R Albert Hall is the perfect venue. For me, its quite overwhelming. I've passed opportunities to get in as a chorus guest at a performance. I'd rather be in the audience. Much as I love choral music, and operatic vocalists, its the orchestral ppassage at the very end which is quite searing - as long as they have the separate, additional Brass section (preferably in the Gallery - both Boulez and Colin Davis sited them there.....)Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
For me, Solti's recording is unbeaten, not least because he had a perfect team of soloists. I watched the Rattle Prom repeat and have it saved on Hard Disk, but I get more pure pleasure from an audio recording. I do think that whatever I'm hearing is overlain by my (subconscious?) "memory" of and recalled feelings experienced at live performances.
Which reminds me - I'm in the middle of a book downsizing exercise (got to catch the Oxfam bookshop at the right time when they have capacity to take the relinquished books) - my only book purchase on the re-opening of the local Waterstones was Stephen Johnson's book so I must start reading it!Comment
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Bit of a thread hijack, as is bsp's wont, but also a bit of a revival, with the 2025 Mahler Festival at the Concertgebouw, Amsterdam about to launch:
NPO Klassiek (Dutch Radio) has a dedicated page, where broadcasts look forthcoming:
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I read yesterday that the Eighth was first done at a Prom in1964, conducted by Charles Groves with the Liverpool Phil and members ofthe BBC Northern S.O. and a large number of choirs including the Wirral Singers! (I wonder if they're still going). The soloists were led by Heather Harper.Comment
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Its first RAH outing was a bit before that of course and is still a stunner.Originally posted by smittims View Post
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Yes on NPO4 tonight With Mahler 1......although competition from RBB3, as they have Barenboim cond. Berlin Phil. in Adagio from Sym. 10 and Das Lied.....both 7pm (UK time)......it's Berlin for me...and they say it's live!Originally posted by bluestateprommer View PostComment
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Barenboim has cancelled his appearance (not surprising given his health issues) and his place has been taken by Sakari Oramo. The programme remains the same.Originally posted by Roger Webb View Post"The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard HaitinkComment
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Ah, thanks for that.....the 'they say it's live!' in my post I put in with the idea that it might not be, as I'd heard that Barenboim wasn't doing any concerts at the moment. Strange that RBB's programme page still claims he is conducting tonight. Still Oramo's good enough for me!Originally posted by Petrushka View PostComment
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Yes, I recall an excellent Mahler 2 from Oramo at the Proms a few years ago.Originally posted by Roger Webb View Post"The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard HaitinkComment
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From the NPO Klasiek stream: before the music started, heard the welcome speech by Simon Reinink, managing director of Het Concertgebouw, in English (befitting the international character of the visiting ensembles, and no doubt probably a good portion of the audience in the hall, as well as people listening on line). Before this was an interview, likewise in English (only caught the latter part, though), between Anders Hillborg and the NPO presenter Ab Nieuwdorp about AH's new work Hell Mountain, airing now as I type (thought that I heard references to Mahler 10).
PS: On smittims' inquiry about the Wirral Singers:
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Good to see the Wirral Singers are still going. Good luck to them.
And thanks, oliver for that Horenstein film. But did not Adrian Boult's 1948 BC Eighth take place at the RAH? Or Henry Wood's British premiere of the work? I can't imagine where else. Even Queen's Hall would be a bit of a squeeze.Comment
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I shall have to update my records! Yes, Queen’s Hall would certainly have been out of the question in 1948 and not only because of its size…
(I have spent far too long on my train through Bavaria this morning googling for actual evidence of the exact location of the 1930 performance. Came tantalisingly close with the NYT review but the actual text is behind a paywall.)Last edited by oliver sudden; 10-05-25, 08:32.Comment
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My NYT subscription allowed me to search its archive so, on 4 May 1930, an article appeared on various recent musical events in London, not least the April 15th Henry Wood performance of Mahler’s 8th, “given in the Queen’s Hall”.Originally posted by oliver sudden View PostComment
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