New and recent Mahler recordings

[BBMmk2]

Barbs, what you think of the 6th Symphony that Barbirolli did? I see that Stan has played it.

[Alison]

I tried the Vanska 5th symphony today. It was all going well until (iv) which is slow and uninvoving while the finale hangs fire from beginning to end. I don’t really think Minnesota make the right noise for Mahler despite pockets of no mean virtuosity.

[Flay]

Has anyone else watched the Semyon Bychkov live stream of Mahler 2 with the LSO, et al?

https://youtu.be/UkHrjuJK9j4

Thanks for that heads-up, BBM (I hope eveything goes well for you today). Tremendous performance.

But as an aside, I just can’t follow SB’s conducting. Most of the time his right hand appears to be half a beat or more ahead of the orchestra. How on earth do they cope?

[Bryn]

https://youtu.be/UkHrjuJK9j4

Thanks for that heads-up, BBM (I hope eveything goes well for you today). Tremendous performance.

But as an aside, I just can’t follow SB’s conducting. Most of the time his right hand appears to be half a beat or more ahead of the orchestra. How on earth do they cope?

See https://www.reddit.com/r/classicalmu...ay_behind_the/ and http://www.classicfm.com/discover-mu...rs-beat-ahead/ etc.

[Flay]

Thanks, Bryn. SB seemed so far ahead that I found it disconcerting. No doubt I still see a conductor through ancient youth orchestra eyes, when the beat had to be indicated exactly.

[Barbirollians]

Barbs, what you think of the 6th Symphony that Barbirolli did? I see that Stan has played it.

I got to know the work from the studio recording when it was on Classics for Pleasure. I love it but it will depend I imagine on whether you can take the slow heavy tread of the opening movement.

There is also a live account at the Proms recorded on Testament almost contemporaneously that some reviewers prefer but I tend to see it as complementary. There is another recording on Testament with the Berlin Phil in 1966 I found that relatively less exciting.

[BBMmk2]

I got to know the work from the studio recording when it was on Classics for Pleasure. I love it but it will depend I imagine on whether you can take the slow heavy tread of the opening movement.

There is also a live account at the Proms recorded on Testament almost contemporaneously that some reviewers prefer but I tend to see it as complementary. There is another recording on Testament with the Berlin Phil in 1966 I found that relatively less exciting.

Thanks for that barbs. looks like I will hear on Spotify first, before I buy.

https://youtu.be/UkHrjuJK9j4

Thanks for that heads-up, BBM (I hope eveything goes well for you today). Tremendous performance.

But as an aside, I just can’t follow SB’s conducting. Most of the time his right hand appears to be half a beat or more ahead of the orchestra. How on earth do they cope?

Many thanks. Not well, leading up to the BMB, but at least that went by very well!

I was finding SB's conducting rather disconcerting as well. I am glad I'm not the only one!

[mahlerei]

Interesting new release from Pentatone:

http://www.eclassical.com/labels/pentatone/mahler-symphony-no-4-in-g-major-piano-quartet-in-a-minor.html

[BBMmk2]

Interesting new release from Pentatone:

http://www.eclassical.com/labels/pen...n-a-minor.html

Never heard of that orchestra, mahlerei!

[mahlerei]

BBM

Not a bad band, and although I didn't care for Gimeno's debut album with them - early Shostakovich - it could still turn into a good partnership.

[Alison]

Has Colin Matthews delivered with this??!!

[Richard Barrett]

Never heard of that orchestra, mahlerei!

Admirers of the music of Xenakis and Maderna, among others, will be familiar with the OPL's recordings of their orchestral music under Arturo Tamayo.

I am wondering what on earth the point is of orchestrating Mahler's piano quartet movement. I hear the sound of a barrel being scraped.

[Alison]

Can’t imagine Gustav would be too impressed.

Colin does like riding on the back of the greats!

[jayne lee wilson]

BBM

Not a bad band, and although I didn't care for Gimeno's debut album with them - early Shostakovich - it could still turn into a good partnership.

The O.P. de Luxembourg have done some excellent work with Emmanuel Krivine, not least their 2015 Bartok Concerto for Orchestra/Vn.Cto.2 (Papravami) - one of my favourite Bartok albums, and a lovely Vincent d'Indy anthology on timpani (Istar, Poème des Rivages etc.), again one of my very favourites for repertoire I'm very fond of....

There's a 2012 Ravel album too, which I've not heard but should suit them beautifully...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dpopular&field-keywords=krivine+luxembourg&rh=n%3A229816%2Ck%3Akrivine+luxembourg

[mahlerei]

Yes, I imagine they'd be more at home in French rep. Gimeno has recorded a Daphnis with them.