Ash Wednesday CE from Truro Cathedral

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  • jonfan
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    • Dec 2010
    • 1707

    #16
    Trinity Cambridge have covered many settings by Weelkes and Gibbons this term, The Service for Trebles a notable example, 20 minutes in on the clip.

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    • mopsus
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      • Nov 2010
      • 993

      #17
      Originally posted by Finzi4ever View Post

      I wish more BBC broadcast CEs used canticle settings from that Golden Age. (Not sure I know an equivalent portmanteau word, like Tudorbethan, to cover Elizabethan and Jacobean eras: Jacobethan, or Elizabean?) Any particular verse service favourites, folks? I offer Weelkes for Trebles... over to you.
      For me the Gibbons Second Service is unsurpassed. When there was the 'World Cup of Canticles' on what was then Twitter it made it to the semi-finals, so others clearly feel similarly. It comes round on CE about once a year, and sometimes been broadcast with viol or even brass accompaniment. But there are many other worthwhile verse settings by Weelkes, Batten etc. and I had noticed that they don't seem to get broadcast much now, even though foundations will have them in their repertoire.

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      • Finzi4ever
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        • Nov 2010
        • 677

        #18
        Originally posted by mopsus View Post

        For me the Gibbons Second Service is unsurpassed. When there was the 'World Cup of Canticles' on what was then Twitter it made it to the semi-finals, so others clearly feel similarly. It comes round on CE about once a year, and sometimes been broadcast with viol or even brass accompaniment. But there are many other worthwhile verse settings by Weelkes, Batten etc. and I had noticed that they don't seem to get broadcast much now, even though foundations will have them in their repertoire.
        fond of Batten 4th

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        • Finzi4ever
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          • Nov 2010
          • 677

          #19
          Originally posted by jonfan View Post
          Trinity Cambridge have covered many settings by Weelkes and Gibbons this term, The Service for Trebles a notable example, 20 minutes in on the clip.
          https://www.youtube.com/live/AoijscT...wgVTapIo5b45z_

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          • oddoneout
            Full Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 10427

            #20
            Originally posted by Finzi4ever View Post

            fond of Batten 4th
            Never had the pleasure of singing a Batten service when I was involved in church music, but several of his anthems were regularly aired, finding favour with both choir and congregation.

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            • cat
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              • May 2019
              • 419

              #21
              I think Tomkins has more surviving verse services than most from the "Pre-Commonwealth" period, despite some possibly having been lost when his house was destroyed by roundhead canon fire. His fifth service is the most widely known, but his fourth, sixth and seventh all deserve more airtime.

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              • eighthobstruction
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 6813

                #22
                ....Marvellous little thread (for statistical purposes)....20 responses but 924 views....
                bong ching

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                • Guest

                  #23
                  I miss St J's Allegri.

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                  • Finzi4ever
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 677

                    #24
                    Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                    I miss St J's Allegri.
                    oddly, I don't: great performance, though it invariably was. A decent break from it will probably enhance my respect for it again. I agree with Jonfan, above, who said Truro's Anglican chant version, especially with that effective Hervey chant, brought out the meaning more powerfully and not because it was in English.

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                    • vinteuil
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 14244

                      #25
                      Originally posted by cat View Post
                      ... canon fire
                      not just deans being sacked then

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26867

                        #26
                        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

                        not just deans being sacked then
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • Keraulophone
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 2116

                          #27
                          Originally posted by oddoneout View Post

                          Never had the pleasure of singing a Batten service when I was involved in church music
                          Batten's 4th Evening Service is popular in Truro.

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                          • Keraulophone
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 2116

                            #28
                            Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                            I miss St J's Allegri.
                            The title of Truro Cathedral Choir's Spring Concert 'Miserere - Music for Lent' gives a clue to its inclusion on the 15th March. As others have appreciated, Ps 51 sung to the Hervey chant conveyed the spirit and meaning of the psalm very effectively.

                            Neither was the Allegri sung at the St John's Ash Wednesday meditation 'Still to Dust', in which music by six other composers was sung.

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                            • Finzi4ever
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 677

                              #29
                              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

                              not just deans being sacked then
                              I can think of one canon precentor who should be...(see other thread)...or even shot from a cannon.

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