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  • LMcD
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    • Sep 2017
    • 9347

    #91
    Originally posted by hmvman View Post

    Yes, it carry on for a while after Alan Keith's death and RB presented it. I remember hearing it a few times and thinking how elderly RB sounded at that stage.
    RB presented it from 2003 to 2007, and retired from the BBC at the age of 82 when the programme was taken off air.
    Guest holiday presenters included Evelyn Barbirolli, Rosalind Runcie, Earl Spencer and Ursula Vaughan Williams.
    Last edited by LMcD; 24-05-25, 13:00.

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    • cloughie
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      • Dec 2011
      • 22385

      #92
      One of the gems of R2,way back was Benny Green’s Sunday afternoon programme -again a presenter with the knowledge!

      on another topic I’m currently listening to ‘Any Questions’ on R4 - it seems to me that this programme has far better management by Alex Forsyth than Question Time is by Fiona Bruce on BBC1 TV.
      Last edited by cloughie; 24-05-25, 13:34.

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      • smittims
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        • Aug 2022
        • 5260

        #93
        Re message 85, full-length works are not the whole of Classical Live. Yesterday we were promised Mozart's Quartet in C, K 465, described as if in full before and after, but just before the music began he said 'here's the finale'. Afterwards (and yes, we heard just the fourth movement) he said 'that was Mozart's quartet in C, K465 ' as if it had been played in full. Soon the music will be as short as the trailers and chat, 'after this...' as they say.

        Of course Freeview Tv is like this. Often the bits of programme are about the same length as the commercial 'breaks' . This is the way Radio 3 is going . Ready for privatisation?

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        • LMcD
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          • Sep 2017
          • 9347

          #94
          Originally posted by smittims View Post
          Re message 85, full-length works are not the whole of Classical Live. Yesterday we were promised Mozart's Quartet in C, K 465, described as if in full before and after, but just before the music began he said 'here's the finale'. Afterwards (and yes, we heard just the fourth movement) he said 'that was Mozart's quartet in C, K465 ' as if it had been played in full. Soon the music will be as short as the trailers and chat, 'after this...' as they say.

          Of course Freeview Tv is like this. Often the bits of programme are about the same length as the commercial 'breaks' . This is the way Radio 3 is going . Ready for privatisation?
          Does that also apply to programmes broadcast via Freesat?

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          • LMcD
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            • Sep 2017
            • 9347

            #95
            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
            One of the gems of R2,way back was Benny Green’s Sunday afternoon programme -again a presenter with the knowledge!
            Don't forget Semprini's 'Old ones, new ones, loved ones, neglected ones' on Sunday evenings, and the 'bumper bundles' on 2-Way Family Favourites. Pat Boone's 'I'll Be Home' was particularly popular. In the summer, Cliff and/or Jean would also gently ask us not to have our radios on too loud in case it disturbed our neighbours.
            Last edited by LMcD; 24-05-25, 18:54.

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            • french frank
              Administrator/Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 31299

              #96
              Originally posted by smittims View Post
              Re message 85, full-length works are not the whole of Classical Live. Yesterday we were promised Mozart's Quartet in C, K 465, described as if in full before and after, but just before the music began he said 'here's the finale'.
              I didn't listen to find out, but I wondered about that - it's not unusual for the playlist to give the impression an entire work is being played when it's only a single movement. Even if they were all full-length works, there seems to be a randomness to the selection - there may of course be a theme running through the entire programme which I would know if I listened
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • Roslynmuse
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                • Jul 2011
                • 1324

                #97
                Originally posted by hmvman View Post

                Yes, it carry on for a while after Alan Keith's death and RB presented it. I remember hearing it a few times and thinking how elderly RB sounded at that stage.
                I remember listening to what must have been one of Alan Keith's last programmes; by that point he was speaking unbelievably slowly. This must have been around 2001 or 2002? I probably hadn't listened to the programme for 20 years so it was a rather shocking and depressing experience.

                Re Richard Baker - when I listened to These You Have Loved it was on R4 - Thursdays mornings, repeated Saturday evenings (or vice versa); it then morphed into Baker's Dozen. My Sat evening ritual was something like Desert Island Discs, Stop the Week, Baker's Dozen.

                I've been musing on what made his programme endearing and (for me as a rather geeky teenager) part of my musical education, whilst simultaneously being critical of the current bleeding chunks of Mixtape and odd movements being played on daytime R3. The best I can come up with is that R3 never had to do that when there were programmes like 100 Best Tunes or These You Have Loved on other radio stations. It would have felt out of place to have that menu served on R3. Where to go now for what R3 served up thirty or forty years ago?

                Mention of Semprini reminds me of occasionally listening to that too, although the arrangements of the music I knew were not to my taste and there was a lot that I didn't recognize, if I remember correctly over a span of half a century.

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                • LMcD
                  Full Member
                  • Sep 2017
                  • 9347

                  #98
                  [QUOTE=LMcD;n1338102]
                  Originally posted by Roslynmuse View Post

                  ... more like Manhattan Transfer than anything else. /QUOTE]

                  I love Manhattan Transfer, but even the inclusion of their wonderful rendition of 'A Nightingale Sang In Berkeley Square' wouldn't be enough to persuade me to tune in to Mixtape.

                  Might the Leo Black programme have been Play It Again?
                  I found myself listening to Mixtape for once, and wonder if anybody recognized the piece that was played between Schumann's 'Meine Rose' and the excerpt from the Rachmaninov Vespers.

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                  • Roslynmuse
                    Full Member
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 1324

                    #99
                    [QUOTE=LMcD;n1339941]
                    Originally posted by LMcD View Post

                    I found myself listening to Mixtape for once, and wonder if anybody recognized the piece that was played between Schumann's 'Meine Rose' and the excerpt from the Rachmaninov Vespers.
                    It looks as though the playlist on the website is the wrong way round - it's the 2nd movement of Edgar Meyer Violin Concerto, which is listed to be before the Schumann song rather than after it.

                    Edit - I didn't know it, but found it on YouTube after wondering about the playlist's accuracy...

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                    • LMcD
                      Full Member
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 9347

                      [QUOTE=Roslynmuse;n1339943]
                      Originally posted by LMcD View Post

                      It looks as though the playlist on the website is the wrong way round - it's the 2nd movement of Edgar Meyer Violin Concerto, which is listed to be before the Schumann song rather than after it.

                      Edit - I didn't know it, but found it on YouTube after wondering about the playlist's accuracy...
                      Thank you!

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                      • LMcD
                        Full Member
                        • Sep 2017
                        • 9347

                        Originally posted by Petrushka View Post

                        Even though I hardly ever listen to R3 now I would be devastated if it suddenly ceased broadcasting and I suspect that the above is true of most of us.

                        Thinking about it again, even back in the 70s and 80s I would cherry pick what I wanted to listen to, using the full listings provided in Radio Times. I could never understand either then or, even more, now why anyone would want to have R3 on all day as little more than 'wallpaper' music.

                        Nowadays, weeks can go by without my even looking at the schedules and most of my time is filled with reading and music, the latter from my CD collection in the evening. I'm afraid that Radio 3 has little relevance to me except for the Proms and even that is gradually losing its once important place in my affections.
                        I recently renewed my subscription to Radio Times, as it makes it easier to catch up via iPlayer or Sounds with anything interesting that I may have missed or had drawn to my attention, such as (respectively) Billy Joel at the BBC broadcast on BBC 2 last Saturday and the Reicha Oboe Quintet that featured in this morning's TTN. However, I wonder how Rachmaninov would react to the news that his 3rd Piano Concerto is 'the biggie' in tonight's concert..

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