Applause....I know, I know..........

[Bryn]

Oh, dear, Bryn. Whatever happened to respect for other people's preferences?

As I have previously suggested, it is something which some here seek to deny those who, for whatever reason, decide to applaud during the break between the separate movements of a multi-movement work.

[Bryn]

Nobody's complained about that, have they?

You confuse unrelated things, because you wilfully misrepresent the reason fo people's objections expresssed here.

No, I simply give some background information and context to my tolerance of those who applause between the separate movements of a multi-movement work.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

As I have previously suggested, it is something which some here seek to deny those who, for whatever reason, decide to applaud during the break between the separate movements of a multi-movement work.

. . . for whatever reason. . .

Dies this mean after any movement that ends with a big bang?

[Bryn]

. . . for whatever reason. . .

Dies this mean after any movement that ends with a big bang?

Not necessarily. The point I was raising was re. separate (i.e. non-attacca) movements in a multi-movement work, though I think it fair to say that quiet endings are probably less likely to attract applause before the active music-making recommences than one which, as you put it, ends with a bang. It is not me that is making such decisions, if decisions rather than spontaneous autonomic reactions they are, it's those who applaud.

[P. G. Tipps]

Nobody's complained about that, have they?

You confuse unrelated things, because you wilfully misrepresent the reason fo people's objections expresssed here.

So what, pray, is the true representation of the complainants expressed here?

Basically, It seems to be a case of one small group of concert-goers dictating to others that they should not innocently applaud when many alongside them are coughing and spluttering, some loudly conversing about the music which has just stopped, and one or two others heavily banging seats and then heading for the nearest toilets?

So you agree that is a true representation?

If not, what on earth is it ... ?

[Beef Oven!]

It has been pointed out many times on this thread, but has usually been ignored, that the disturbance suffered by having to cope with something you do not want is necessarily greater than the disturbance suffered by the absence of something whose presence (other things being equal) you would welcome.

(There must be a name for this!)

Pointing something out doesn't make it valid. On what basis has it been decided that the absence of something desired is less disturbing than the presence of something not wanted?

[french frank]

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?13819-Applause-I-know-I-know&p=503031#post503031

[Bryn]

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthrea...031#post503031

Ah, you just re-posted that to bump up the total number of messages.

[Ed says - so's not to bump up the number …]

[Serial_Apologist]

So what, pray, is the true representation of the complainants expressed here?

Basically, It seems to be a case of one small group of concert-goers dictating to others that they should not innocently applaud when many alongside them are coughing and spluttering, some loudly conversing about the music which has just stopped, and one or two others heavily banging seats and then heading for the nearest toilets?

So you agree that is a true representation?

If not, what on earth is it ... ?

As things stand at the moment, I'm as happy to put up with inter-movement applause while its tendency is to erupt spontaneously in response to a thrilling conclusion to a movement just performed, as I am to stifle my own inclinations so to do if some are upset by this; the reason being that I'm pretty certain that once clapping becomes customary it will eventually start happening after quiet endings too.

[Flosshilde]

Nobody's complained about that, have they?

I wonder why not? Having people wandering about during the music is rather more distracting than people clapping between movements.

[Flosshilde]

Ah, you just re-posted that to bump up the total number of messages.

[Ed says - so's not to bump up the number …]

What's so special about 500?

[Serial_Apologist]

I wonder why not? Having people wandering about during the music is rather more distracting than people clapping between movements.

But, does it actually happen these days in the Proms arena? It's been so long since I last attended. If wandering around did happen, people who object to inter-movement clapping might complain.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Nobody's complained about that, have they?

I wonder why not? Having people wandering about during the music is rather more distracting than people clapping between movements.

The practice has been mentioned on other threads. Many of the older people at concerts in Scarborough's Spa Grand Hall get up and leave mid-music, just so they can be first on the cliff lift.

The practice may be OK for Proms in the Park or similar outdoor events, but surely not in concert halls.

[Serial_Apologist]

What's so special about 500?

It's a deadline, no? Like, let's try and work towards some convergence of views on this, rather than assume an infinitude of time to luxuriate in the rightness of our respective positions.

[Serial_Apologist]

I wonder why not? Having people wandering about during the music is rather more distracting than people clapping between movements.

The practice has been mentioned on other threads. Many of the older people at concerts in Scarborough's Spa Grand Hall get up and leave mid-music, just so they can be first on the cliff lift.

The practice may be OK for Proms in the Park or similar outdoor events, but surely not in concert halls.

What may be being suggested is that quietly leisurely wandering around in the Arena while the music is underway would be more acceptable than in the aisles, if people squashed in between seat rows would have constantly to stand up to let ambulants pass.