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  • doversoul1
    Ex Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 7132

    Lassus., Lotti, Biber and more

    Welcome back, Early Music Show.

    Saturday
    A selection of music for Easter by one of the most revered composers of the sixteenth century, Orlando de Lassus.
    The music of Lassus is not as well known today perhaps, as that of his Italian contemporary Palestrina, but in the sixteenth century, Lassus was thought the greater master. Catherine Bott looks back on the life and music of this remarkable Belgian with particular reference to some of his highly charged and affecting music for Easter.

    Catherine Bott presents a selection of music for Easter by Orlando de Lassus.


    Sunday
    Lucie Skeaping introduces a selection of early music for Easter, mixing popular compositions for Passiontide with some lesser-known works.
  • John Skelton

    #2
    Originally posted by doversoul View Post
    Welcome back, Early Music Show.
    Saturday
    The music of Lassus is not as well known today perhaps, as that of his Italian contemporary Palestrina
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01fhxdw
    I much prefer Lassus, for the little that's worth . The Lagrime Di San Pietro is an amazing cycle. (That's a nice prompt - I'll give Herreweghe's recording a play later).

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    • Roehre

      #3
      Originally posted by John Skelton View Post
      I much prefer Lassus, for the little that's worth . The Lagrime Di San Pietro is an amazing cycle. (That's a nice prompt - I'll give Herreweghe's recording a play later).
      JS, I do as well. But I cannot actually tell why. Do you?

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      • John Skelton

        #4
        I'm not an expert, so this is probably a caricature: but there's something very polished and assembled about Palestrina. As if he starts from the external rather than externalising something internal. A fancy way of saying that Palestrina's music leaves me a bit cold, perhaps!

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        • Pegleg
          Full Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 389

          #5
          Nice to have EMS back this weekend. For the unintiated (that's me), someone has posted the entire Lagrime Di San Pietro at that tube place (Harmonia Mundi HMC901483 - Ensemble Vocal Européen director: Philippe Herreweghe). And for a starter, there's a reasonable Wikipedia entry. On the theme of grief, I still hope to catch Palestrina's Stabat Mater on Radio 3 Live in Concert tonight.

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          • kernelbogey
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 5529

            #6
            Originally posted by Pegleg View Post
            Nice to have EMS back this weekend. For the unintiated (that's me), someone has posted the entire Lagrime Di San Pietro at that tube place (Harmonia Mundi HMC901483 - Ensemble Vocal Européen director: Philippe Herreweghe). And for a starter, there's a reasonable Wikipedia entry. On the theme of grief, I still hope to catch Palestrina's Stabat Mater on Radio 3 Live in Concert tonight.
            About twenty Easters ago R3 broadcast all of Lassus's Penitential Psalms, over the course of Holy Week, which I found very fine indeed.

            Slightly agree about Palestrina leaving me a bit cold. Lassus has more guts.

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 36775

              #7
              Originally posted by John Skelton View Post
              I'm not an expert, so this is probably a caricature: but there's something very polished and assembled about Palestrina. As if he starts from the external rather than externalising something internal. A fancy way of saying that Palestrina's music leaves me a bit cold, perhaps!
              I agree, JS. It's probably the reason why Palestrina always used to be taught in academia as being the exemplar of late Renaissance polyphonic methods. Very soothing, mind.

              Having never heard Orlando di Lassus's music, I shall be listening.

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              • jean
                Late member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7100

                #8
                Originally posted by doversoul View Post

                Saturday
                [Iwith particular reference to some of his highly charged and affecting music for Easter.[/I]
                We certainly heard some highly charged and affecting music, but apart from the first motet it was for Holy Week rather than Easter.

                Lassus is a wonderful composer but so varied is his output that one programme can't begin to do it justice. I am longing to hear again the Lamentations of Job which I came across many years ago, but which seems to have disappeared from the consciousness of today's early music specialists. Does anyone know of any recordings?

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #9
                  There's this one, jean:



                  (took me a while: I'd "googled" "Lassus, Lamentations of Bob"!)
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • jean
                    Late member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7100

                    #10
                    I had found a scrap of that recording on YouTube, but wasn't very impressed. There doesn't seem to be anything else.

                    Sacræ Lectiones nivem ex Propheta JobLes Plaintes de Job (1565).Neuf Leçons pour l'office des défunts.Ensemble vocal Raphaël PassaquetEnregistré en 1968 chez...

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                    • Roehre

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jean View Post
                      We certainly heard some highly charged and affecting music, but apart from the first motet it was for Holy Week rather than Easter.

                      Lassus is a wonderful composer but so varied is his output that one programme can't begin to do it justice. I am longing to hear again the Lamentations of Job which I came across many years ago, but which seems to have disappeared from the consciousness of today's early music specialists. Does anyone know of any recordings?
                      It might be you find these CDs of Orlando di Lasso interesting, but no Job in sight I'm afraid

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                      • ardcarp
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11102

                        #12
                        Yes, welcome back EMS, Skeaping and Bott. We missed you. Just LA-ed both programmes. If the Beeb decides on another saturation week (Heaven forbid) then they could do worse than the very prolific Lassus who was at home in the many and varied compositional styles of his day. The highlight of the Lassus programme was for me the contribution of The Huelgas Ensemble, especially I'vo piangendo a secular Petrarch setting with instruments, Just fabulous. Otherwise the programme had a disproportinately high percentage of choirs with counter-tenors on top. Not that I've anything against C-Ts (!) but the sound was a little unrelieved at times. But then it was Holy Week......

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                        • DracoM
                          Host
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 12798

                          #13
                          Have a wonderful CD of the Huelgas Ensemble doing a number of 40 part motets including Tallis and Striggio.

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                          • Roehre

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                            Have a wonderful CD of the Huelgas Ensemble doing a number of 40 part motets including Tallis and Striggio.
                            That's a great one.
                            But do you know this (cheaper here).
                            Wholeheartedly recommended.

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                            • ardcarp
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11102

                              #15
                              Thanks, Roehre. That's another one on my present list (Christmas, that is.)

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