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  • Ein Heldenleben
    Full Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 6047

    #76
    Originally posted by hmvman View Post
    Which are other reasons I can only take him in small doses; a limited Service is better for me (ahem, sorry).

    Just out of curiosity, EH, if you were his producer would you pull him up on these verbal habits?
    There is a very delicate balance between crushing a presenters individuality and / or over indulging their eccentricities. Some presenters want feedback, others don’t. Some People can get a bit prickly when asked to rewrite things .Others really like it when you point out things that are difficult to follow.
    To be honest in a lot of film / tv the producer does most of the writing - it’s too expensive to get the talent to do it . It can take all day to write an hour script and these people earn 000’s . There is the added complication in TV of writing to pics so most tv script writing is done in the edit as you go along , So the presenters usually ends up slightly rewriting your script before the commentary is recorded .They nearly always improve it by making it suit their style of delivery. Its very different in recorded Radio features where it’s all pre written before recording so the clips can be played in accurately . Toms show is quite a complex one with lots of clips often under voice so it’s needs a lot of production to put together. He’s a better radio script writer than me so I guess the answer to your question would be no!

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    • smittims
      Full Member
      • Aug 2022
      • 3203

      #77
      I was told Mr. Service was asked to reduce his frequency of the word 'incredible'. But then , so many are guilty there...

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      • JasonPalmer
        Full Member
        • Dec 2022
        • 826

        #78
        Listening now. Seems a good program if your interested in the subject, i not really interested in blue beard so looks like a browsing of previous editions is in order.
        Annoyingly listening to and commenting on radio 3...

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        • Bryn
          Banned
          • Mar 2007
          • 24688

          #79
          Originally posted by JasonPalmer View Post
          Listening now. Seems a good program if your interested in the subject, i not really interested in blue beard so looks like a browsing of previous editions is in order.
          I would strongly recommend that you do listen. Bartok's Duke Bluebeeard's Castle is a masterpiece and Service does it some, I think.

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          • MickyD
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 4561

            #80
            Mention of David Munrow's excellent programme "Pied Piper" reminded me also of its successor, "The Young Idea" presented by Christopher Hogwood - it was always an interesting programme, Hogwood researched and presented it well.

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            • smittims
              Full Member
              • Aug 2022
              • 3203

              #81
              As I recall, 'The Young Idea' played complete works. I distinctly remember 'Also Sprach Zarathustra' being played (LAPO/Mehta). So no 'dumbing-down' then!

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 20529

                #82
                Originally posted by smittims View Post
                As I recall, 'The Young Idea' played complete works. I distinctly remember 'Also Sprach Zarathustra' being played (LAPO/Mehta). So no 'dumbing-down' then!
                If anything, it was probably a bit too high-brow for many younger listeners. It started off with a programme containing Rodrigo's Concierto de Aranjuez and Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture, but went uphill from there. But better that than the soggy mush we have now.

                And Munrow and Hogwood didn't talk incessantly over the music, like TS and JG do now.

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 29404

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                  If anything, it was probably a bit too high-brow for many younger listeners. It started off with a programme containing Rodrigo's Concierto de Aranjuez and Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture, but went uphill from there. But better that than the soggy mush we have now.
                  In between in register was "The Music Machine", presented by Verity Sharpe/Tommy Pearson. Not dumbed down, but a conscious move towards making the programme appealing to 'our younger listeners' - and a corrective to 'a bit too high-brow for many younger listeners'.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • smittims
                    Full Member
                    • Aug 2022
                    • 3203

                    #84
                    And while we're at it, let's not forget 'The Works' with David Owen Norris. I enjoyed that (more, I have to say, than some of his more recent broadcasts).

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                    • MickyD
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 4561

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      If anything, it was probably a bit too high-brow for many younger listeners. It started off with a programme containing Rodrigo's Concierto de Aranjuez and Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture, but went uphill from there. But better that than the soggy mush we have now.

                      And Munrow and Hogwood didn't talk incessantly over the music, like TS and JG do now.
                      I listened to it when I was about 17/18, which I think was about the right age to appreciate it. I remember one very good programme about humour in music with various different examples, including Hoffnung. I wonder if any of these broadcasts survive? It would be good to hear them again to be reminded of how just fine programmes were at that period.

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