BaL 29.10.16 - Brahms: String Sextet No.1 in B flat major, Op. 18

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20536

    BaL 29.10.16 - Brahms: String Sextet No.1 in B flat major, Op. 18

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    Building a Library: Katy Hamilton recommends a recorded version of Brahms’s String Sextet No.1 in B flat major, Op. 18, composed in 1860. It is scored for two violins, two violas, and two cellos.This was quite an unusual combination of instruments at the time Brahms wrote the piece.

    Available recordings:

    Academy of St Martin in the Fields Chamber Ensemble
    Alberni String Quartet, Roger Best & Moray Welsh
    Alexander String Quartet, Tony Appel, David Requiro
    Amadeus Quartet, Cecil Aronowitz, William Pleeth
    L’Archibudelli
    Augustin Dumay, Miguela da Silva, Svetlin Roussev, Henri Demarquette, Marie Chilemme, Aurelien Pascal
    Bartók Quartet, György Konrád), Ede Banda (download)
    Busch Quartet (download)
    Camerata Quartet, Michal Styczynski, Adam Klocek (download)
    Hausmusik London
    Juilliard Quartet, Walter Trampler, Leslie Parnas
    Kocian Quartet, Josef Kluson, Michal Kanka
    Hartmut Rohde (viola), Michael Sanderling (violoncello
    Leipziger Streichquartett, etc.
    Lindsay Quartet, Louise Williams, Paul Watkin
    Silke-Thora Matthies & Christian Köhn (piano duo)
    Yehudi Menuhin, Robert Masters, Ernst Wallfisch, Cecil Aronowitz, Derek Simpson, Maurice Gendron (download)
    Nash Ensemble
    Quatuor Prazak, Petr Holman & Vladimír Fortin
    Quatuor Sine Nomine, Nicolas Pache, Francois Guye
    Raphael Ensemble
    Isaac Stern, Pablo Casals, Milton Katims, Milton Thomas, Madeline Foley, Alexander Schneider
    Isaac Stern, Cho-Liang Lin, Michael Tree, Jaime Laredo, Yo-Yo Ma, Sharon Robinson (download)
    Stuttgart Soloists
    Talich Quartet, Michal Kanka & Josef Kluson
    Vienna Konzerthaus Quartet
    Trio Jean Paul (arr. Theodor Kirchner)
    Trio Parnassus
    Trio Stradivari (arr. Theodor Kirchner) (download)
    Verdi Quartett, Hermann Voss, Peter Buck
    Vienna Konzerthaus Quartet (download)
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 29-10-16, 10:36.
  • BBMmk2
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 20908

    #2
    Strangely enough, I haven't come around to this work. So I be rather interested, particularly, if there are any others floating around!
    Don’t cry for me
    I go where music was born

    J S Bach 1685-1750

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    • vinteuil
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 12458

      #3
      I love this work.

      I have the Amadeus/Aronowitz/Pleeth , and (my current favourite) l' Archibudelli, plus the very interesting piano duet version with Silke-Thora Matthies & Christian Köhn. (The naxos series of Brahms piano-four-hands has been so enlightening, marvellous.)

      I think I shall have to investigate the Hausmusik recording...

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      • Gordon
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 1424

        #4
        Lovely work!! Looking forward to this one. Interesting combination of instruments repeated by Dvorak in his sextet Op48 but 20 years after Brahms. This is also well worth a listen.

        I've had the Raphael for many years now [coupling is the other sextet] but suspect I may be heading for another version!

        I wonder, seeing so many quartets in this list, whether, in this age of recording, any were tempted to play with themselves by having the viola and cello add the 5/6th parts afterwards?
        Last edited by Gordon; 22-10-16, 11:42.

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        • vinteuil
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 12458

          #5
          Originally posted by Gordon View Post


          I wonder ... whether .... any were tempted to play with themselves ...

          indeed

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          • Richard Barrett
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            • Jan 2016
            • 6259

            #6
            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
            (my current favourite) l' Archibudelli
            The first time I heard the work was in this recording, and it was the first time I found something to appreciate in Brahms. There are still only a very few works of his that I'm ever interested in listening to, and this is still one of them. Some time later I chanced on a radio broadcast of another performance, I don't remember the performers except Casals was the "extra" cellist; and found it so ponderous and overcooked that I thought if I'd heard that one first I'd never have wanted to have anything to do with the piece again. But... the first movement in particular gets to me in a way nothing else of Brahms does.

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            • Daniel
              Full Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 418

              #7
              Originally posted by Gordon View Post
              Lovely work!!
              Yes indeed! A piece that has proved constant here, throughout various Brahms waxings and wanings. It has an irresistible spontaneity and seems to soar in a way that for me not too much Brahms manages.

              I have the Raphael Ensemble too, as well as the Stuttgart Soloists on Naxos and know various others from listening online. Will listen with interest.

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              • kernelbogey
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 5541

                #8
                Both Brahms sextets are gorgeous, IMV.

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                • visualnickmos
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3607

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Daniel View Post
                  I have the Raphael Ensemble too, as well as the Stuttgart Soloists on Naxos and know various others from listening online. Will listen with interest.
                  This is a most enjoyable recording - I have it, and also Stern, Lin, Laredo, Tree, Robinson on Sony. What's the Stuttgart Soloists recording like? A worthy 'contender' perhaps, in your opinion...?

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    #10
                    Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                    Both Brahms sextets are gorgeous, IMV.
                    MV2
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • Gordon
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1424

                      #11
                      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                      indeed
                      As Dick Emery might have said: You are naughty....

                      2 quartets with no named extra players are listed by Alpie above so...

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                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20536

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Gordon View Post
                        2 quartets with no named extra players are listed by Alpie above so...

                        ... they just couldn't afford the extra players.

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                        • Richard Tarleton

                          #13
                          I also think both sextets are gorgeous, esp. no 1. Only one version on CD - Academy of St M in the F (Ken Sillito and co) tho I heard a lovely live performance at the 2014 Aldeburgh Festival - can't find the programme as I'm redecorating so can't tell you who by.....

                          PS Found the programme, it was the Arcanto Quartet, who record for Harmonia Mundi - but the prog doesn't credit the extra players...
                          Last edited by Guest; 22-10-16, 08:14.

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                          • pastoralguy
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7606

                            #14
                            The Brahms' sextets are, possibly, my all time favourite chamber works to both listen to and to play. My introduction to this wonderful music was back in 1979 when the slow movement was used as introduction music to a BBC Radio 3 play called ' The Tennent of Wildfell Hall'. The play made no impression but I thought the music was terrific! Mind you, I thought it had been written specially for the broadcast and had no idea it was written by Brahms. It was only a year or so later I accidentally heard it on the Radio and recognised it.

                            Alas, there's no mention of my first Lp which was a CfP disc of the Principals of the LPO led by Rodney Friend which is still my favourite version. No, it's not the most polished version but I think the music's joy comes shining through.

                            I eventually bought the music and used to take it to string quartet weekends praying that a 'cellist and and viola player could be found on a Saturday afternoon when there was an optional 'free choice' option offered. I dreaded a second viola player not being available which would, inevitably, result in Schubert's boring Quintet being played. (The second fiddle part is NOT the most interesting!)

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                            • kea
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 749

                              #15
                              I also feel like L'Archibudelli capture something quite special in this work that not many other performers do (until hearing their recording I'd thought of the Op. 18 as nice but definitely the inferior of Op. 36—which, however, they also capture something special in). Hard pressed to name exactly what it is—of course there's the sound, gut strings on Stradivarius instruments and all that, and how close it is to what Brahms would have wanted if he could get hold of it, but I think it's also a particular attitude towards articulation and dynamics.

                              Also worth noting that the Talich Quartet & friends turn in a performance of the slow movement that puts a lot of emphasis on its Hungarian quality, something I generally have a lot of time for.

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