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  • kernelbogey
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    • Nov 2010
    • 5526

    Phones in concerts

    According to this piece by Martha Gill



    In tomorrow's Observer, and online now, the CBSO is encouraging the use of phones to make videos during their concerts.

    Discuss.
  • LMcD
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    • Sep 2017
    • 7556

    #2
    Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
    According to this piece by Martha Gill



    In tomorrow's Observer, and online now, the CBSO is encouraging the use of phones to make videos during their concerts.

    Discuss.
    I believe this has already been the subject of a Proms General Discussion.

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    • Roslynmuse
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      • Jul 2011
      • 1226

      #3
      Stephen Hough makes his views on this matter known with characteristic charm:

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      • oddoneout
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        • Nov 2015
        • 8545

        #4
        As it happens, I was at a lunchtime recital today where the introductory preamble included "Thank you for switching your mobile phones and other devices off for the duration of this concert".About 5 minutes in someone started filming on their phone, and after a muttered discussion at the back of the venue a person was dispatched to tap on the shoulder and ask him to desist.
        What part of "switch", "phone" and "off" had not been understood I wondered.

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        • Roslynmuse
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          • Jul 2011
          • 1226

          #5
          I could go on and on about audience behaviour and how I am increasingly wary of live events. I was at the BBC Phil Bruckner 5 last Saturday and about 30 seconds in, the man sitting next door but one to me on my right started to open a chocolate bar - v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y - and break off a chunk every now and again. Chocolate being chocolate, a few crumbs must have landed on his jacket as there was then a brushing down. By the time this had finished we were well into the exposition but I had been so irritated and distracted that I couldn't find my focus again.

          If we give the narcissists carte blanche to film their concert experiences as well then I'll be staying at home.

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26327

            #6
            Originally posted by Roslynmuse View Post
            I could go on and on about audience behaviour and how I am increasingly wary of live events….

            If we give the narcissists carte blanche to film their concert experiences as well then I'll be staying at home.
            Wholeheartedly agree with every syllable of the above.

            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • smittims
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              • Aug 2022
              • 3230

              #7
              It seems to me this is one of those problems that should have been dealt with in advance, like the accumulation of litter which followed the demise of open fires and the spread of plastic packaging. The public concert evolved in an age when this simply couldn't have been foreseen. They want audiences so they can't afford to ban phones and probably can't legally force people to leave them behind.

              It will take an imaginative genius to think of a solution. In a previous century the concept of 'good manners ' and 'consideration for others' would have prevented this, but in this crazy centiury that's all gone. I don't attend concerts any more but I've had similar problems with noisy passengers on trains; not enough peoeple seem to care enough to do anything aboiut it.

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              • Ein Heldenleben
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                • Apr 2014
                • 6047

                #8
                Originally posted by Roslynmuse View Post
                Stephen Hough makes his views on this matter known with characteristic charm:

                https://slippedisc.com/2024/05/steph...3-176-185-199/
                Excellent . I must check whether these really are the tricky passages - I bet they are . Mind you it’s all very tricky, perhaps they should give Stephen a third pedal with a red light for those passages meaning no filming please .

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                • oddoneout
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                  • Nov 2015
                  • 8545

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                  Excellent . I must check whether these really are the tricky passages - I bet they are . Mind you it’s all very tricky, perhaps they should give Stephen a third pedal with a red light for those passages meaning no filming please .
                  I think he has listed all the passages in which he is playing...

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                  • Roger Webb
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                    • Feb 2024
                    • 484

                    #10
                    Originally posted by oddoneout View Post

                    I think he has listed all the passages in which he is playing...
                    Yes, I think Tom made it plain that Hough was making a joke, and that all passages are tricky to varying degrees.

                    The only artist so far in favour of this policy seems to be Anna Lapwood - although as an organist she would normally be at the back of the stage with her back to the audience! Still she seems ever eager to jump on a populist bandwagon......even though most of the players on the bandwagon suffer the glare of a thousand mobile phones.
                    ​​​​

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                    • Old Grumpy
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                      • Jan 2011
                      • 3338

                      #11
                      I think this guy perhaps had the right attitude:



                      *****Expletive alert!!*****

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                      • Pulcinella
                        Host
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 10144

                        #12
                        We intend recording (both video and audio) our York Festival of Ideas event next month, and have had to seek permission from all choir members.
                        Presumably if ever a concert is televised, all those partaking have to agree (part of their contracts?)?

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                        • french frank
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                          • Feb 2007
                          • 29418

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
                          I think this guy perhaps had the right attitude:
                          Say again? Narcissists is just the word for people who spend so much of their time taking photos of themselves that a special word has to be invented to describe it. (And a special stick to help them do it)
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • kernelbogey
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 5526

                            #14
                            Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                            According to this piece by Martha Gill



                            In tomorrow's Observer, and online now, the CBSO is encouraging the use of phones to make videos during their concerts.

                            Discuss.
                            To be clear - for those who may have chosen not to follow the link - Martha G's piece goes further than the issue of either just the CBSO, or indeed classical music concerts in general, to explore the issues of phone culture, generational differences - and, crucially, marketing folks' attempts to pander (as I would see it) to phone culture and its ramifications. She's worth a read, IMV!

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                            • kernelbogey
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 5526

                              #15
                              Originally posted by french frank View Post

                              Say again? Narcissists is just the word for people who spend so much of their time taking photos of themselves that a special word has to be invented to describe it. (And a special stick to help them do it)
                              Narcophotophiles?

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