Harold McNair would have been 80 tomorrow.

[burning dog]

[burning dog]

I even like Donavan records for McNair's contributions

[Ian Thumwood]

BD.

Staggered by these records. Given the reputation of this usic (especially amongst some posters on this board) this music has REALLY dated. It's like a mixture of 60's Soul Jazz (Les McCann) and Roaldn Kirk. Quite like the flute playing but the music sounds like something dragged up from a 70's porn film!

[burning dog]

BD.

the music sounds like something dragged up from a 70's porn film!

I leave that sort of judgement to the experts!

[Serial_Apologist]

I leave that sort of judgement to the experts!

[burning dog]

I was influenced by the Joe Doakes:Dead threads on another part of the forum. Why not celebrate musicians BIRTHDAYS, alive or dead.? I was going to add other birthdays as they occur.

Ian makes a good point to be fair, the two flute tracks ARE dated but the middle one, though nothing revolutionary, was a good bop track in my opinon.

I was limited by what's on you tube!

Maybe people these days don't consider it might have been strange that modern jazz was being played at all in the UK before the mid 60s. I guess most hadn't heard Bird until the Strings album so the bop was not so old fashioned. Think back 15 years ago - Frisell, Scofield, Lovano doing the rounds playing similar stuff to today and that's the forward looking mainstream, not Wynton and the neo classicals.

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I don't know why Ian referred to this in the Michel Portal thread though ( I went there out of interest) surely they can both co exist wtihout any problem. The musicans and the conditions the music was made in are so far apart, comparisons are fruitless. I think it's a shame there isn't equivalent pop jazz today as this is lot more jazzy than Kenny G and the others.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

... there is a McNair album with izenson & Moffattt i believe that is harder to find than hen's teeth ....

His first UK album as a leader, Affectionate Fink, was made for the fledgling Island Records in 1965. The session saw him team up with Ornette Coleman's then current rhythm section of David Izenzon (bass) and Charles Moffett (drums), for a set of standards played with hard swinging intensity. McNair equally featured his tenor sax and flute on this session, delivering virtuoso performances on both.

wicki

[burning dog]

Do the BBC have a copy? Could we bombard Jazz Record Requests?

[burning dog]

According to All About Jazz Terry Shannon was born 82 years ago today....

[Ian Thumwood]

BD


Good morning

I made reference to McNair in the Portal thread as I suspected that this thread would be flooded with interest and references fo long- forgotten albums whereas the Frenchman, whose music is of real merit and highly original, seemed to be ignored.

Cheers

Ian

[burning dog]

Welll this one is hardly flooded with interest. R3 is the channel for Jazz Library JLU as well as Jazz on 3. OLd Stuff, New Stuff, challenging, less challenging but still Jazz. I don't see the threads as being in competition in some way.

[handsomefortune]

belated happy birthday harold mcnair - long may your memory live on

i agree about co existence of all music essentially. the same goes for words too, there doesn't need to be a cut back, as with the economic austerity measures..... (e-prime included)?

instead, everything just co-exists, to an extent regardless, oblivious to popularity levels. if a body of creative work has been left initially, it's presumably in the race to 'live on'? in this sense, a birthday, or deathday thread is worthwhile, doesn't matter which really. worthwhile primarily as a means of discovering new creatives, and prompting existing memory/online search. 'last word' on r4 was particularly interesting this week, though doesn't often describe jazzers lives.

imv the portal 'jazz library' interview/tracks were a bit special, in terms of it all being ingeniously crafted, interpreted and clearly re-expressed for listeners. what with gigs coming up, it's an apetiser.


I even like Donavan records for McNair's contributions

personally speaking, good to finally identify harold mcnair, burning dog!

'get thy bearing' track's ever sophisticated, impressive in its directness and simplicity, in contrast to donovan's penchant for mushy peas.

everyone performs brilliantly on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4El6d3qEKg

this is harold mcnair playing sax with donovan, right ....? ....and who's bass player/drums ... ?

anyways up, couldnt find mcnairisms of 1958 film 'Island Women' .....

but this is good too - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSvDNyvztko though harold's not on it. torrid underwater footage of a ginger woman + croc fight ... best consumed with sound track off, and personal choice of music accompanying imv..... her birthday was probably pisces ? ideal for bon fire night viewing, if your sparklers got damp.

as regards 'cheesy 70s porn, + making a living' excuses ...mcnair and portal converge only as to 'poor taste'. the last track of portal's 'jazz library' interview was the very worse ...(for me), but i enjoyed the rest.

[burning dog]

From wiki

Many of Donovan's late Sixties recordings featured a core group of musicians who regularly recorded and/or toured with him, including his key musical collaborator John Cameron on piano, Danny Thompson (from Pentangle) or Spike Heatley on upright bass, Tony Carr on drums and congas and Harold McNair on saxophone and flute. Carr's conga style and McNair's distinctive flute playing are an intrinsic feature of many of these recordings. Cameron, McNair and Carr also accompanied Donovan on several major concert tours and can be heard on his 1968 live album Donovan In Concert.


McNair was also on this Philly Joe Jones album

http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1457732/a/Mo'+Joe.htm

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

what this one?

McNair on tenor

[burning dog]