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amateur51
#20761

29-05-12, 21:11

Originally posted by Caliban View Post

What an awesome thing! I've never heard it!

Don't think Ravel used opus numbers though...

Lickle bugler, innit

Worth hearing, this Ravel-Gould tho'
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#20762

29-05-12, 22:21

Welcome back, subby. Is the Op 26 a work involving an electronic instrument (that sort of "conductor")?

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#20763

29-05-12, 22:35

Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post

Welcome back, subby. Is the Op 26 a work involving an electronic instrument (that sort of "conductor")?

No, it was revolutionary in its compositional method.
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#20764

29-05-12, 22:36

Originally posted by subcontrabass View Post

No

Ah: just like old times!

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#20765

29-05-12, 22:37

Wind Quintets

Reicha, Danzi and R Strauss
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#20766

29-05-12, 22:40

Originally posted by cloughie View Post

Wind Quintets

...R Strauss

Revolutionary?

"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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#20767

29-05-12, 22:40

Oh! I'm such a fool! Schoenberg's Opus 26 (the first large-scale work to use the Method of Composing with Twelve Notes Related Only to Each Other throughout) is his Wind Quintet. A medium untouched for about 100 years before this work.

Benda one of the others?

EDIT: Cross post with cloughie who got the other two composers.

(Don't think Strauss wrote a Ww5tet?)

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#20768

29-05-12, 22:41

Originally posted by cloughie View Post

Wind Quintets

Reicha, Danzi and R Strauss

Two out of three. Strauss Opus 26 appears to be two songs for voice and piano.
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#20769

29-05-12, 22:41

Originally posted by cloughie View Post

Wind Quintets

Reicha, Danzi and R Strauss

Wrong S I meant to say Schonberg!
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#20770

29-05-12, 22:42

Sounds like between you ferney and clougie, you got it

"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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#20771

29-05-12, 22:42

Originally posted by cloughie View Post

Wind Quintets

Reicha, Danzi and R Strauss

Originally posted by cloughie View Post

Wrong S I meant to say Schonberg!

R Schonberg?!?

"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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29-05-12, 22:49

Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post

Oh! I'm such a fool! Schoenberg's Opus 26 (the first large-scale work to use the Method of Composing with Twelve Notes Related Only to Each Other throughout) is his Wind Quintet. A medium untouched for about 100 years before this work.

EDIT: Cross post with cloughie who got the other two composers.

That's the third. The work was found by players to be so complex that it needed a conductor for many early performances.

Summary:

The Wind Quintet as a "standard" ensemble was effectively established by Franz Danzi (1763–1826), who composed 9 Wind Quintets, and Anton Reicha (1770 – 1836), who composed 24. There appear to have been very few others composed until the twentieth century.

Cloughie got the "W" and the first two links, so I think he has the privilege of the next letter (by established convention a choice of X, Y, Z or A).
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#20773

29-05-12, 22:52

Nice one Cloughs!

Still very keen to hear Richard Schonberg's Wind Quintet though! Got a link, mate?

"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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#20774

30-05-12, 08:16

Originally posted by Caliban View Post

Nice one Cloughs!

Still very keen to hear Richard Schonberg's Wind Quintet though! Got a link, mate?

Never said it was Richard, 'tis 'rnold, my 'ansome, and the ferneyman pipped me anyway.

aside - just watching TV Breakfast - Russell Watson described as the top selling 'Classical' artist! Not a bad voice Ive heard much worse but 'Classical'?
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#20775

30-05-12, 09:23

Please will someone set the next please as I'm busy at the moment.
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