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  • rubbernecker

    Originally posted by Tapiola View Post
    Ahh, Orpheus!
    The mob reference continues to escape me though.
    See my post above

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    • Don Petter

      Originally posted by rubbernecker View Post
      I wasn't looking for specific references to all the operas, although Louis refers to Louis Lully, son of Jean-Baptiste. I thought you might have at least got Orpheus in the Underworld... Never mind. It's nice to have you back, Don.

      Over to you for P.

      Er - Orpheus in the Underworld was my Offenbach reference!


      P question:

      What powerful orchestral work was French in style, but would have been twice as big over here?

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      • Don Petter

        Originally posted by rubbernecker View Post
        See my post above
        Being thick here - can't see explanation of mob in any of your posts?

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        • Tapiola
          Full Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 1688

          Originally posted by rubbernecker View Post
          See my post above
          The perils of cross-posting.

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          • rubbernecker

            Originally posted by Don Petter View Post
            Er - Orpheus in the Underworld was my Offenbach reference!
            Which was my 'mob' reference! Criminal underworld... geddit?

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            • Tapiola
              Full Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 1688

              Originally posted by Don Petter View Post
              Er - Orpheus in the Underworld was my Offenbach reference!


              P question:

              What powerful orchestral work was French in style, but would have been twice as big over here?
              Pli selon pli?

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              • Don Petter

                No. 'fraid not.

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                • Don Petter

                  Originally posted by rubbernecker View Post
                  Which was my 'mob' reference! Criminal underworld... geddit?

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                  • Tapiola
                    Full Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1688

                    Bah! I had it all worked out and everything.

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                    • Norfolk Born

                      Honnegger's Pacific 231. European railway buffs count axles, but Brits count wheels.

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                      • Don Petter

                        Originally posted by Tapiola View Post
                        Bah! I had it all worked out and everything.
                        It might be one of those parallel answers that fits! You can tell us the workings of your devious mind if you like. (Though even if it fits, it won't count. )

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                        • Norfolk Born

                          Originally posted by Don Petter View Post
                          P question:

                          What powerful orchestral work was French in style, but would have been twice as big over here?
                          I have to pop out for an hour or so, so I'll check later re. #1143. If I'm right, would you like a 'Q'or an 'R'?

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                          • Tapiola
                            Full Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1688

                            Originally posted by Don Petter View Post
                            It might be one of those parallel answers that fits! You can tell us the workings of your devious mind if you like. (Though even if it fits, it won't count. )
                            OFCACHAP's answer fits perfectly.

                            My reasoning for Pli is: French, powerful and was roughly half the length in its original incarnation, before Boulez kept adding to it, including the "Don" movement (Don, of course, referring to your good self, who (from your own perspective) is "over here").

                            Hmm, in retrospect, it doesn't fit that well.

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                            • Don Petter

                              Originally posted by OFCACHAP View Post
                              I have to pop out for an hour or so, so I'll check later re. #1143. If I'm right, would you like a 'Q'or an 'R'?
                              Ofca - Sorry. Turn my back for a couple of minutes and it's all over! Quite right.


                              My prepared answer is:

                              Honegger's work 'Pacific 231' was named after the class of steam locomotive (Pacific) which in France is designated by the axle arrangement, but in the UK by the number of wheels. Hence here it would have been called 'Pacific 462'.


                              I don't mind which letter next. Should be Q, but if nothing comes to mind in the short term, by all means give us an R.

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                              • Nick Armstrong
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26324

                                Originally posted by Don Petter View Post
                                Honegger's work 'Pacific 231' was named after the class of steam locomotive (Pacific) which in France is designated by the axle arrangement, but in the UK by the number of wheels. Hence here it would have been called 'Pacific 462'.
                                My initial reaction was this thread is really entering the arena of the unwell...

                                But that's actually quite interesting.

                                I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'll go to bed this evening better informed even though none the wiser.
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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