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  • vinteuil
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    • Nov 2010
    • 12460

    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
    focussed



    ... your preferred spelling, o Caliban?

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    • Nick Armstrong
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      • Nov 2010
      • 26337

      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
      ... your preferred spelling, o Caliban?
      I was just editing it, I was just editing it!!!!!





      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • amateur51

        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
        ... your preferred spelling, o Caliban?
        Eggs queues me, either a single or wubble 's' can be used. I had a physics teacher who was very particular about that

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        • vinteuil
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          • Nov 2010
          • 12460

          Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
          Eggs queues me, either a single or wubble 's' can be used. I had a physics teacher who was very particular about that
          o mein Amateur! - I am well aware that both spellings are to be found. I noted this very morning in my idle elevenses reading that the great WS Lewis in his monumental 48 vol edition of the Correspondence of Horace Walpole uses the focussed spelling. But then he was at Yale...

          I was just a leetle surprised that our Calibmensch shd have gone down that path

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            Both "focused" and "focussed" look odd to me (I dare say the feeling's mutual): I usually chose the latter - but I really don't like it!
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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              • Nov 2010
              • 20536

              "Focussed" is used less often than "focused", though the former fits better into the general pattern of English spelling, as opposed to the American, where double letters are avoided ("traveler", "marvelous", etc).
              Either version appears to be acceptable in the OED.

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              • amateur51

                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                o mein Amateur! - I am well aware that both spellings are to be found. I noted this very morning in my idle elevenses reading that the great WS Lewis in his monumental 48 vol edition of the Correspondence of Horace Walpole uses the focussed spelling. But then he was at Yale...

                I was just a leetle surprised that our Calibmensch shd have gone down that path
                The grave of Elihu Yale is to be found in the parish church of my home town. Said parish church is also one of the seven wonders of Wales

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                  The grave of Elihu Yale is to be found in the parish church of my home town. Said parish church is also one of the seven wonders of Wales
                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elihu_Yale
                  What would the US education system be without the Welsh?



                  ... and, of course, Hafod University.
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • Nick Armstrong
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26337

                    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                    o mein Amateur! - I am well aware that both spellings are to be found. I noted this very morning in my idle elevenses reading that the great WS Lewis in his monumental 48 vol edition of the Correspondence of Horace Walpole uses the focussed spelling. But then he was at Yale...

                    I was just a leetle surprised that our Calibmensch shd have gone down that path

                    I incline phonetically to the double 's' (seems to me to be much more sensible) but I know the single 's' is more... British. I had noticed it and actually thought vinmousseux would spring on it...

                    Vinchaud, you do remind me of Mr Mousebender in the Python 'cheese shop' sketch! I know it's a different Walpole but you put me in mind of this exchange: Mr Mousebender is John Cleese, the cheese shop proprietor Mr Wensleydale is Michael Palin:

                    W: What can I do for you, Sir?

                    M: Well, I was sitting in the public library on Thurmond Street just
                    now, skimming through 'Rogue Herries' by Hugh Walpole, and I
                    suddenly came over all peckish.

                    W: Peckish, sir?

                    M: Esurient.

                    W: Eh?

                    M: 'Eeeee.... I wor 'ungry-like!

                    W: Ah, hungry!

                    M: In a nutshell. And I thought to myself, "a little fermented curd will do
                    the trick", so, I curtailed my Walpoling activities, sallied forth, and
                    infiltrated your place of purveyance to negotiate the vending of some
                    cheesy comestibles!

                    W: Come again?

                    M: I want to buy some cheese.

                    W: Oh, I thought you were complaining about the bazouki player!

                    M: Oh, heaven forbid: I am one who delights in all manifestations of the
                    Terpsichorean muse!

                    W: Sorry?

                    M: 'Oooooo, I lahk a nice tuune, 'yer forced to!


                    So, vindebordeaux: Walpoling or Walpolling?

                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • vinteuil
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12460

                      The basic rule in English is usually -

                      words of one syllable, ending with one consonant preceded by one vowel, double that consonant on adding -ed or -ing :

                      beg begged begging
                      clap clapped

                      and words of more than one syllable, ending with one consonant preceded by one vowel, and accented on the last syllable, double that consonant on adding -ed or -ing :

                      allot allotted allotting
                      commit committed committing

                      BUT words of this class, not accented on the last syllable, do not double the last consonant on adding -ed or -ing :

                      balloted bayoneted benefited blanketed bracketed budgeted buffeted carpeted combated discomfited faceted filleted focused galloped jacketed junketed lettered marketed offered paralleled picketed pivoted proffered profited riveted trousered trumpeted visited wainscoted

                      [ words ending in -l the final consonant is generally doubled, whether accented on the last syllable or not - appalled bevelled channelled dishevelled enrolled grovelled labelled rivalled travelled ]

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26337

                        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                        The basic rule in English is usually -

                        words of one syllable, ending with one consonant preceded by one vowel, double that consonant on adding -ed or -ing :

                        beg begged begging
                        clap clapped

                        and words of more than one syllable, ending with one consonant preceded by one vowel, and accented on the last syllable, double that consonant on adding -ed or -ing :

                        allot allotted allotting
                        commit committed committing

                        BUT words of this class, not accented on the last syllable, do not double the last consonant on adding -ed or -ing :

                        balloted bayoneted benefited blanketed bracketed budgeted buffeted carpeted combated discomfited faceted filleted focused galloped jacketed junketed lettered marketed offered paralleled picketed pivoted proffered profited riveted trousered trumpeted visited wainscoted

                        [ words ending in -l the final consonant is generally doubled, whether accented on the last syllable or not - appalled bevelled channelled dishevelled enrolled grovelled labelled rivalled travelled ]
                        I repeat my question in #414 above: Walpoling or Walpolling??? The latter, I take it?
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • vinteuil
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12460

                          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                          I repeat my question in #414 above: Walpoling or Walpolling??? The latter, I take it?
                          ... I wd tend to Walpoling. The -l rule has various exceptions - appealed, appealing; travailed, travailing.

                          So far in our litrachur I think the word "Walpoling" is hapax legomenon, no?

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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26337

                            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                            hapax legomenon
                            Bless you!

                            (PS: I suspect so)
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • vinteuil
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12460

                              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                              I repeat my question in #414 above: Walpoling or Walpolling??? The latter, I take it?

                              ... and then again, if you wish, cf -

                              Named for the infamous Canadian, N. Walpole, walpoling is the conscious decision to irk the living crap our of everyone around you by constantly pointing out the one thing that separates you from them, to point out that in one tiny area you are a have, rather than a have not. The true joy comes from knowing that soon, the walpoler will soon be just like everyone else.

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                              • amateur51

                                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                                The basic rule in English is usually -

                                words of one syllable, ending with one consonant preceded by one vowel, double that consonant on adding -ed or -ing :

                                beg begged begging
                                clap clapped

                                and words of more than one syllable, ending with one consonant preceded by one vowel, and accented on the last syllable, double that consonant on adding -ed or -ing :

                                allot allotted allotting
                                commit committed committing

                                BUT words of this class, not accented on the last syllable, do not double the last consonant on adding -ed or -ing :

                                balloted bayoneted benefited blanketed bracketed budgeted buffeted carpeted combated discomfited faceted filleted focused galloped jacketed junketed lettered marketed offered paralleled picketed pivoted proffered profited riveted trousered trumpeted visited wainscoted

                                [ words ending in -l the final consonant is generally doubled, whether accented on the last syllable or not - appalled bevelled channelled dishevelled enrolled grovelled labelled rivalled travelled ]
                                As soon as I see an Englishman writing 'generally' I know there is no rule as such and you can make it up as you go along

                                Mind you, you'll pay for it later, they'll never give you a job.

                                But that's off-topic

                                It's not pedantry; it's snobbery






                                Or should that be 'snobery'

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