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  • subcontrabass
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 2780

    Originally posted by french frank View Post
    So how did that make him Austrian by birth, with or without a [sic]?
    It doesn't. I thought that was the point of the [sic] - to quote something but point out that it is (at least) questionable.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 29423

      Originally posted by subcontrabass View Post
      I thought that was the point of the [sic] - to quote something but point out that it is (at least) questionable.
      I see. I realise teamsaint was quoting something, but the [sic] means, then, that the quote was quoting something else, and was thus indicating that that was questionable.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • teamsaint
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 25081

        just to clarify: (hopefully...)

        the piece I quoted was part of a large piece that Alex Ross was quoting in the book.

        Its not clear if the [sic] was originally part of the quote, or was a Ross/editorial addition.
        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 29423

          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
          Its not clear if the [sic] was originally part of the quote, or was a Ross/editorial addition.
          I think we've got to the bottom of that one, then. At least, as far as we can go.
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 20531

            Why is everyone being so pedantic?

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            • Serial_Apologist
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              • Dec 2010
              • 36735

              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
              Why is everyone being so pedantic?

              Because the English language is so richly nuanced it has infinite words for infinite shades of meaning? Or because pedantry is so much fun!

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              • Don Petter

                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                Or because pedantry is so much fun!

                You might be suffering from anoraxia!

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                • Pabmusic
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                  • May 2011
                  • 5537

                  Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                  Because the English language is so richly nuanced it has infinite words for infinite shades of meaning? Or because pedantry is so much fun!
                  I have to take issue, SA. By the very nature of languages they must be finite. I can think of things we cannot easily speak about in English because we don't have the vocabulary. Think of trying to distinguish 'hot' (the weather) from 'hot' (a curry). Other languages can (variations on 'piquant' are common).

                  Now, Arthur Baughring-Goldpharte comments in the third sub-footnote to the sixth footnote on page 94 of his seminal Fifteen-Hundred Tightly-Packed Pages About Something-Or-Other that (assuming there's an R in the month) … [contd. p.94]

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                  • Don Petter

                    Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                    Now, Arthur Baughring-Goldpharte comments in the third sub-footnote to the sixth footnote on page 94 of his seminal Fifteen-Hundred Tightly-Packed Pages About Something-Or-Other that (assuming there's an R in the month) … [contd. p.94]

                    Now, that's not anoraxia, it's verbesity.

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                    • Lento
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                      • Jan 2014
                      • 646

                      Mr Rafferty referred to Heinrich Barman in today's clarinet-centric lunchtime concert. I'll drink to that!

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                      • Roehre

                        Originally posted by Lento View Post
                        Mr Rafferty referred to Heinrich Barman in today's clarinet-centric lunchtime concert. I'll drink to that!

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                        • LeMartinPecheur
                          Full Member
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 4717

                          Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                          Did anyone else shudder when Mr Rafferty pronounced 'apostle' with a very audible 't' this morning?
                          I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                            Did anyone else shudder when Mr Rafferty pronounced 'apostle' with a very audible 't' this morning?
                            What an apostate!

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                            • ahinton
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 16122

                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              Because the English language is so richly nuanced it has infinite words for infinite shades of meaning?
                              Does it strike anyone as odd that the person widely credited as having claimed that "language was give to man to conceal his thoughts" - namely François VI, Duc de La Rochefoucauld, Prince de Marcillac (1630-1680) - was French, when his maxim seems to apply so much more appropriately to the English language?...

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 29423

                                Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                                Does it strike anyone as odd that the person widely credited as having claimed that "language was give to man to conceal his thoughts" - namely François VI, Duc de La Rochefoucauld, Prince de Marcillac (1630-1680) - was French, when his maxim seems to apply so much more appropriately to the English language?...
                                Was La Rochefoucauld the first to say that? It seems to have been attributed to various people: Talleyrand, Stendhal and Malagrida in the form:

                                "La parole a été donnée à l'homme pour qu'il trahisse/pour déguiser/cacher/dissimuler sa pensée."
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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