the right wing in the USA is not just crazy it is wrong too

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

so there

and Mr Osborne may care to contemplate the evidence as well!

[Serial_Apologist]

I would still maintain that the problems are systemic and arise from the perpetual contradiction between production and consumption inherent in subsuming productivity of labour to the competitive model and all it entails in commercial secrecy and the periodic need to destroy the productive base and/or move to sources of cheaper labour and other resources if markets there or elsewhere in the world are offering up their buying capacity. To this end capitalism lays waste to environments and then having screwed whatever feeds its insatiability to exhaustion moves away imposing geographical inertia on localities past usefulness in its terms. There is nothing in theory stopping them from reducing the wealthiest and once most productive of first world locations to wilderness, Detroit being a prime example, though it could as easily be Middlesbrough, or even London, one day, just as they'll move operations to places ruled by gangsters such as the ex-Soviet bloc. There's always somewhere to go to and wreck, so that it can be held in reserve as of some use later on. What a way to go about running the world; people have to be manipulated to go along with it by being told it's the best of all possible systems and it accords with human nature.

[aeolium]

....and coming over here perhaps?:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...-owen-paterson

[Serial_Apologist]

....and coming over here perhaps?:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...-owen-paterson

After seeing him "dealing" with the Somerset Levels floods, I can't think of a miserable specimen better suited to heading a British Tea Party than Owen bloody Paterson, the thinking person's dishcloth.

[visualnickmos]

After seeing him "dealing" with the Somerset Levels floods, I can't think of a miserable specimen better suited to heading a British Tea Party than Owen bloody Paterson, the thinking person's dishcloth.

Perfectly put.

[ahinton]

Owen bloody Paterson, the thinking person's dishcloth.

Er, that's not quite fair - to the dishcloth, which does at least have a use...

[jean]

It's rather a Faragean metaphor, too, and possibly to be avoided for that reason alone.

[amateur51]

It's rather a Faragean metaphor, too, and possibly to be avoided for that reason alone.

I'm fairly certain that Mr Farage doesn't know one end of a dishcloth from another - he has (EU-funded) staff to keep him away from such domestic nasties.

[ahinton]

I'm fairly certain that Mr Farage doesn't know one end of a dishcloth from another - he has (EU-funded) staff to keep him away from such domestic nasties.

And/or maybe a top of the range Miele dishwasher (though we don't mention its German manufacture, naturellement)...

[jean]

He thinks he does, though.

[ahinton]

He thinks he does, though.

He thinks? Really?

[Dave2002]

And/or maybe a top of the range Miele dishwasher (though we don't mention its German manufacture, naturellement)...

Could be Austrian, Czech, Romanian or Chinese! There are 8 production plants in Germany.

http://www.miele.co.uk/about-us/

[ahinton]

Could be Austrian, Czech, Romanian or Chinese! There are 8 production plants in Germany.

http://www.miele.co.uk/about-us/

Sure, but that wouold surely only serve as even more of red rag to the bull(y) that is Farage - especially the Romanian example!