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  • ahinton
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    • Nov 2010
    • 16122

    Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
    Is it possible to submit this post to the Plain English Campaign for a pithy precis, I wonder? :erm:
    Unless I were to do this myself, I doubt it, but it can be and indeed has been submitted to its author for the correction of a typo.

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    • John Skelton

      Mr Pee view of this entire débâcle that its importance has been and remain grossly over-inflated, but I do wonder what any eventual outcome could possibly be in terms of fundamental change to the ways in which the media function. The extent to which individual thrusts of the inquiry continue to generate fresh ones for investigation is increasingly such that the possibility that it might come to outlast Leveson himself (even were it to contiune thereafter with his name still attached thereto) is becoming ever more of a probability and there seems less and less likelihoos of an end to it; the inquiry has already uncovered far more questionable activities and relationships in far more places than was at first envisaged and it is perhaps noteworthy that the terms of its general remit have hardly needed to be widened to enable this. A few more years of this with no possible end in sight and the general public view that the media, police and politicians can no more be trusted than can the relationships between them will, I believe, have established itself to the point of permanent unshakeability; might the risk nevertheless be that of general public acceptance of the fact of inherent and inevitable corrupt practice on the part of the media, police and politicians to the point of a kind of tacit assumption that members of these professions will almost always act in ways that were once thought to be untenable, unacceptable and

      Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
      Is it possible to submit this post to the Plain English Campaignn for a pithy precis, I wonder? :erm:
      "Never yodel while eating peas."

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      • vinteuil
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        • Nov 2010
        • 12400

        Originally posted by Frances_iom View Post
        Lord Acton "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely" -
        .
        ... Acton has some good quotable sentences. I like: ""Every thing secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity."

        Other good ones on wiki -

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        • ahinton
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          • Nov 2010
          • 16122

          Originally posted by Frances_iom View Post
          Lord Acton "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts abosolutely" -
          Blair (no doubt in another missive from God (pre retirement ?) and remembering the "Sun wot did it" allowed the Murdochs to dominate in all media - since then few had dared deny them anything. In regard to the Police etc here we see the little fleas with their lesser fleas in operation.- goverments like fish rot from the head downwards though I doubt if that bothers a few posh boys already ignorant of the price of milk tho I suspect most lesser mortals had smelt the corruption some time ago.
          It's not just the old Actonian one about power corrupting (true as it was and remains); whilst the inquiry and those observing its progress and development are concentrating on the activities and relationships of a single large media empire, what they also serve to illustrate is that similar activites and relationships are just as likely to exist within and across far smaller media outlets - in other words, if you don't trust the Murdoch moguls, their relationships with government, the police et al or the content of their publications, why would you trust the owners of the local paper?

          By the way, I hadn't realised that God had retired so am grateful to you for alerting me to fact; do you suppose, however, that anyone has thought to tell either the about-to-retire Archbishop of Canterbury or the law firm seeking a court ruling today to enable it to pension off one of its employees because he has attained the age of 65?...

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          • Forget It (U2079353)
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            • Nov 2010
            • 123

            See also Adam Curtis's blog item:
            RUPERT MURDOCH - A PORTRAIT OF SATAN

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            • Frances_iom
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              • Mar 2007
              • 2407

              Originally posted by ahinton View Post
              By the way, I hadn't realised that God had retired so am grateful to you for alerting me to fact; ..
              - I believe he was known as Gus to his mates

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              • Chris Newman
                Late Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 2100

                Just a passing observation. What has come over that usually mild-mannered young reporter Ross Hawkins? Suddenly he is shouting and emphasisng the strangest words. Has he been injected/infected with Pestonitis bacteria?

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                • gradus
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 5480

                  Many thanks for posting Adam Curtis's piece. A fascinating precis of RM's rise albeit saying little positive - all bad? - and with some arguable conclusions, were we really 'outraged' at Murdoch's fight with the print unions?

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    Should anyone here feel like 'signing':

                    Culture Secretary Hunt schemed with the Murdochs win the BSkyB deal. Tomorrow he'll appear at the Leveson Inquiry so let's now call on Cameron to fire the Minister for Murdoch. Sign the petition!

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                    • Frances_iom
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                      • Mar 2007
                      • 2407

                      Originally posted by gradus View Post
                      ..were we really 'outraged' at Murdoch's fight with the print unions?
                      Eddie Shah had already shown the way a few years earlier but as it was in the Northwest it probably escaped notice of many south of Watford, tho the unions recognized what was happening - in the future Spanish practices would be limited to a week in Torremolinos.

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                      • Serial_Apologist
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                        • Dec 2010
                        • 36732

                        Originally posted by Forget It (U2079353) View Post
                        See also Adam Curtis's blog item:
                        RUPERT MURDOCH - A PORTRAIT OF SATAN
                        The great chronicler of the elements making up neoliberal capitalism of the past 30 years does it again!

                        This is great stuff - thanks for posting, FI

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                        • Mr Pee
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3285

                          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                          The great chronicler of the elements making up neoliberal capitalism of the past 30 years does it again!

                          This is great stuff - thanks for posting, FI
                          "A portrait of Satan" http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...vil-790225.gif

                          What a ridiculous load of hyperbole. The amount of sheer tosh written by the rabid anti-Murdoch brigade is simply laughable.
                          Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

                          Mark Twain.

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                          • ahinton
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 16122

                            Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
                            "A portrait of Satan" http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...vil-790225.gif

                            What a ridiculous load of hyperbole. The amount of sheer tosh written by the rabid anti-Murdoch brigade is simply laughable.
                            So much so that it deserves publication in The Sun, may one presume?...

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                            • MrGongGong
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 18357

                              Someone else we shouldn't allow to control things in the uk



                              (maybe this is for the other thread ?)

                              but :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                              • amateur51

                                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                                Someone else we shouldn't allow to control things in the uk



                                (maybe this is for the other thread ?)

                                but :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
                                The Murdoch-Salmond links have become a lot clearer too recently - I read a good piece but can't find it just at the mo - will post it when I do :ok:

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