Flooding

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

Like many natural phenomena and man environment interactions flooding is more complex than appears at first sight ....



Monbiot

DEFRA Mistatements of Funding


it would seem to require rather more brainpower than the Cabinet can muster in Patterson despite his brother in law .... and taking on the EU, Corporate Agriculture and the Landed Gents who shoot grouse .... now where else have we encountered such a concatenation of privileged interest and blinkers?

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

i do not believe it!

[amateur51]

i do not believe it!

That's remarkably crass even by UKIP standards.

I wonder if anyone has thought to ask the governments of Russia, India, Uganda or Nigeria (amongst others) for a comment?

[mercia]

BBC "Related Stories" - Warning as river levels still rising :smiley:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-25793358

[ahinton]

BBC "Related Stories" - Warning as river levels still rising :smiley:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-25793358

As I have observedd elsewhere, I'm astonished that a distinguished member of the UKIP-if-you-want-to "party" (some party!) is so overtly unaware of the fact that it was the storms and floods which were directly responsible for the passage of the same-sex marriage legislation...

[Beef Oven!]

Three cheers for UKIP, for once again being the defenders of free-speech and democracy.

One may not subscribe to the teachings of religious books such as the Koran, Talmud or the Bible, but we should respect other people's right to believe, and not try to ridicule or silence them.

[amateur51]

Three cheers for UKIP, for once again being the defenders of free-speech and democracy.

One may not subscribe to the teachings of religious books such as the Koran, Talmud or the Bible, but we should respect other people's right to believe, and not try to ridicule or silence them.

But it's ok to tell unpleasant lies about people who are different from you, on the basis of their belief in these books? Charming!

[Beef Oven!]

But it's ok to tell unpleasant lies about people who are different from you, on the basis of their belief in these books? Charming!

No, it's neither ok nor charming. Democracy presents many dilemmas like this. We must unchain our brain.

[amateur51]

No, it's neither ok nor charming. Democracy presents many dilemmas like this. We must unchain our brain.

I sincerely hope that Mr Silvester takes your advice.

[Beef Oven!]

I sincerely hope that Mr Silvester takes your advice.

The dilemmas that democracy gives us are for everyone to work through.

[amateur51]

The dilemmas that democracy gives us are for everyone to work through.

Indeed. I am quite clear in my own mind that climate change has nothing to do with religion generally or with equal marriage in particular.

If Mr Silvester or anyone else has any scientific evidence to the contrary, I am prepared to consider it on its merits, of course.

[ahinton]

Three cheers for UKIP, for once again being the defenders of free-speech and democracy.

Yes, OK, but they aren't the only ones - and when doing that results in a spectacular own goal as in this case, one might wonder whether they're sacrificing electoral hopes on an altar of free speech and democracy (as though virtues in their own right rather than being inherent constituent parts of a civlised society) rather than opting for the silence of expediency; that said, UKIP has, at the same time, wisely sought to persuade the public that it does not identify with this crazy idea.

[ahinton]

I sincerely hope that Mr Silvester takes your advice.

He doesn't strike me as the kind of person to take anyone's advice, actually.

[french frank]

Three cheers for UKIP, for once again being the defenders of free-speech and democracy.

Damage limitation?

[amateur51]

Yes, OK, but they aren't the only ones - and when doing that results in a spectacular own goal as in this case, one might wonder whether they're sacrificing electoral hopes on an altar of free speech and democracy (as though virtues in their own right rather than being inherent constituent parts of a civlised society) rather than opting for the silence of expediency; that said, UKIP has, at the same time, wisely sought to persuade the public that it does not identify with this crazy idea.

UKIP appears to be putting some considerable daylight between itself & Mr Silvester, I mean his views ;D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25802437